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Old 10-20-2008, 01:06 PM   #31
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I agree with Innovator. If you can find it go with the T5HO, they produce better light and the bulbs last longer then PCs. Running 2 heaters is always a good idea. I have 3 on my system, if one dies I still have heaters working.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:12 PM   #32
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ive been told that i need about 3wpg for corals, is that correct?
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:48 PM   #33
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For a twenty gallon tank I personally think you dont need a skimmer. I use to have one of those skilter skimmer and they are really low budget and not much results. I basically used it for the filter part.
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I've never subscribed to the wpg rule. I keep my water temp at 79-80 day and night with little swing. (well except for this time of year. AC is off and the wood stove has not been fired up yet)

For your tank I think a pair of 50w heaters would do fine, provided you have somewhere to hide them. When you get into smaller tanks without sumps it makes it more difficult to hide the equipment you need.

I agree with Mike about going without a skimmer. Regular PWCs will take care of the water for you.
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okay so im still trying to figure out if i can succesfully do a reef becuase i dont want to have just a fowlr and get tired of it in a couple months. i cant buy an RO filter (not in the budget) but i would still like to have nano reef because i want to learn about saltwater as well.

my dad says we have a filter that is "equivalent to RO" and that it filters out basically every impurity. we have well water so theres no added chemicals to our water except some k2p04 salt in the softner. i know that high light + excess nutriens = bad algae, but i dont think i have that many nutrients.

do you guys think a reef is do-able with my water situation?
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okay so im still trying to figure out if i can succesfully do a reef becuase i dont want to have just a fowlr and get tired of it in a couple months. i cant buy an RO filter (not in the budget) but i would still like to have nano reef because i want to learn about saltwater as well.

my dad says we have a filter that is "equivalent to RO" and that it filters out basically every impurity. we have well water so theres no added chemicals to our water except some k2p04 salt in the softner. i know that high light + excess nutriens = bad algae, but i dont think i have that many nutrients.

do you guys think a reef is do-able with my water situation?
Its certainly possible, probably not ideal long term. I'd certainly test your water every time you use it, make sure everything is ok before using it. If its a drinking water filter, it may not get out as much as an ro or ro/di.
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I'm not sayin' you should tell your Dad he's wrong (since I'm a Dad too, and well... we're just never wrong! )... but a water softener filtration system isn't the same as an RO when it comes to reef tanks. If we're talking just for drinking purposes, then yeah... it's great. But it doesn't strip everything out of the water like an RO/DI filter will.

HOWEVER...

There are plenty of people that use well/tap water treated with something to neutralize ammonia/chlorine/etc and have great tanks. It just depends on your water. Even if you test it for the stuff we normally test for (nitrates, phosphates, ammonia) there are hundreds of other compounds that could be in it that *may* be bad for the tank... and we just can't test for them.

There's no way anyone can really say if your water won't give you problems. But as long as you realize the potential of it causing issues as you're getting into it, then it gives you something to watch for. If you do end up having issues, then you can deal with it then.

While I don't know your budget... $150 for an RO/DI unit is really just a drop in the bucket if you're considering adding corals.
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lol my dad thinks hes always right its a GE Smartfilter, and it has 2 canisters.

my budget is TIGHT. im 16 and unemployed so $150 is spilling the bucket over lol. my friend at the lfs said he could sell me some of his frags for cheap whenever i get started, so obtaining the corals wouldnt be too bad, just keeping them alive, happy, and algae free would be the difficult thing. (we found common ground on nano-reefing and he wants to help out the cause)

even if i dont go with corals for a year, will my tank still develop the "pretty" pink and purple coraline algae? fowlr with a fish or two + some colorful algae would keep my ADD self from freaking out and tearing it down lol. i really just want to learn about saltwater fish becuase the depth of my knowledge is only nano freshwater fish

oh yeah, i had to downgrade my tank size to 10 gallons. i tried to de-rim the 20 and, well, that didnt go well...
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