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Old 08-26-2008, 03:41 PM   #11
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Ok, you can do that. Adding cured LR shouldn't be a problem. If you want to add more base rock later, set up a tub with a heater and SW and ph, let the base rock sit in it a few days and check for ammonia. If no ammonia shows up, you can add it to your tank. If you see ammonia, you will have to cure it (unless you are still cycling your tank).
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:50 PM   #12
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Alright sounds good.... I didn't know if anyone was understanding what i was saying....
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:57 PM   #13
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So i don't need a Massive amount of LR and BR to get the cycle started 6-8 pounds should be enought? (For Now).... I mean I might even get a Little more maybe 15lbs
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:05 PM   #14
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I think you are missing the point.
In order to get a cycle going, you need an ammonia source (the shrimp/die off from shipped LR/BR). The small amount of rock (LR) does not have enough beneficial bacteria on/in it to shorten the cycle, that's why you will be using the two shrimp.
Cured LR or just plain BR will not start a cycle. They simply house the beneficial bacteria.
Does that make any more sense?
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:08 PM   #15
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you wont be able to house enough bacteria to get your tank up and running
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Substrate? Sand,CC? I always prefer Sand, Live Sand is good, we sell it at our Fish Store. Of course people dont understand that alot of the stuff that is supposed to be "living" has more than likely died off. But If your starting of with only 6lbs It will take longer. Listen to Roka, from what iv read he is the one making the most sense. I would cure it once you obtain it at your house. I would save the money you would spend on base rock for right now, and put that towards another pound or two of LR. LR is your biggest priority right now, as for BB goes. dropping a raw shrimp like you said is always a good idea, plus cheaper !!

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Old 08-26-2008, 04:43 PM   #17
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I know what you mean 6-8 pounds of rock is not enough.... Thats why I need the shrimp to get an ammonia spike...... If that's not it then 30lbs of rock is what I need to keep the beneficial bacteria.... All i want to know is how much rock would I need to start my cycling process???? Maybe i'm just confused sorry i'm still new.... :-(
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Alright, I think the general sense is, you have enough to cycle, but but enough to maintain much of a bioload. I would suggest adding more base to help establish more beneficial bacteria living area, once the cycle is complete, add a small clean up crew and feed the tank sparringly, just enough to help feed both the clean up crew and the beneficial bacteria. Once you add more base or LR, you can add a fish and then add slowly on both fish and rock.
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Yeah I was just trying to make sense of it myself... I know the general idea... I will get enough to get it started... Thanks a lot guys sorry if I was being a Headache today....
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Nope, no head aches here. I had pretty much the same questions when I started. I sometimes felt overwhelmed but lucky for me, the folks here were very helpful and patient.
It won't be long before you are on the other side and helping the newer folks......
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