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Old 10-04-2014, 06:11 PM   #21
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:49 PM   #22
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Still confused about cycling!

I'm really confused about cycling. From everything Ive read so far it means my params will go up and then back down to normal but is there something I need to do to make the params go back to 0? I'm worried about the cycling spike since I have such a sensitive hitchhiker that I would like to keep alive if possible.

Should I do a water change if I get any ammonia or nitrate? And when I do water change should I do 10%, 20% or what? If I do 10% do I wait awhile and retest and then do more WC until I get 0 readings?

Earlier test params
Nitrite 0
pH 7.8 - 8
Ammonia .25-.5
Nitrate 0-2.5
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You want to have no detectable ammonia or nitrites if you are cycling with a shrimp or to see it all consumed in 24 hrs if using pure ammonia.


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Silicone Corals

Does anyone use silicone anemone and corals in a FOWLR tank? Is it ok for the fish? I want some color and beauty with the rocks and thought if it is ok to use silicone then I want to start putting them in before I start stocking fish.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:51 AM   #25
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Thumbs up Day 3 Params

My parameters did not change much on day 3.

pH 7.8 - 8
Ammonia .25 - .5
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 2.5 - 5 (hard to read the test kit)

My salinity has gone from 1.026 - 1.022 from day 1 to day 3. Do I need to do a WC to get the salinity back up?

Should I put a shrimp in the tank to make things go faster? Remember I have a starfish in the tank that I want to try and keep. Should I still try and get the cycle to go up and back down?

I guess I could chop up the shrimp real fine and try and feed it to my star fish he does not seem to be eating the shrimp pellets that I put in the tank and I'm afraid he will die since there isn't anything in the tank for him to eat.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:59 PM   #26
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Here is a list of the fish that I would like to put in my tank. Please let me know your thoughts.

4 Blue Green Chromis (Will be added 1st)
2 Ocellaris Clowns (Will be added 2nd)
1 Royal Gramma (Will be added 3rd)
2 Canary Blenny (will be added 4th)
2 Spotted Cardinals
1 Firefish Goby
1 Sixline Wrasse
1 Hoeven's Wrasse (Will be added last)

I really want a Yellow Tang but there are mixed reviews in a 55 gal. One of my LFS said it would not be a problem in a 55 Let me know your thoughts.

I will also be adding snails, shrimp and crabs as my CUC. I will probably start adding these 1st after my tank matures and starts growing algae.
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5 ) always add clowns last as there teritorial
4 ) wrasses
3 ) royal grammer should go in before wrasses
1) cardnials , firefish
2 ) blennys may fight if not mated

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you want to see 0 ammonia you may have some nitrates those will go away after a water change
if the salinity dropped 1.026 to 1.022 in 3 days either you mixed the salt wrong or you got a bad reading
always rinse your hydrometer before and after each test with fresh water not salt
if you attempt to raise salinity dont do it all at one time do it gradual over two or three days , remember your safe range 1.021 to 1.026
i keep mine at 1.025
never add salt directly into tank it must be mixed first
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Thank you for answering posts for me 54Seaweed! I've learned a lot looking at your site and also looking at Casey's site. I've been all over this forum trying to become more knowledgeable and it has been a great help!

I threw a fresh shrimp into the tank last night hoping to jump start the cycling process. If my ammonia and nitrites spike today how high should I let them go before I take the shrimp out? I was actually hoping the starfish would eat on the shrimp but I've not seen him do so as of yet and not sure he can eat on a whole shrimp.

My starfish started moving around like crazy yesterday, I think he is finally acclimating to the tank although he did go and hide up in the rocks last night so I might not see him for awhile. Is it ok that he has torn off several of the ends of his tentacles will they grow back and will he survive them being gone?

I need to raise the salinity in the tank and I'm hoping to do that with a couple of WC's this weekend, if my tank is still cycling will it hurt to do the water change? I'm hoping that putting the shrimp in there yesterday will make the tank cycle and the WC will come and just the right time.

Do I make the salinity in the batch of water I'm going to change with a higher salinity maybe 1.027 - 1.028 to bring up what is in the tank of 1.022? I want the tank to be 1.025 which is said to be optimal for fish.

I won't be adding fish until the end of November as I will be going out of town for Thanksgiving and thought I should wait until I get back.
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I wouldnt worry too too much about the salinity being a bit low. You can always top off with salt water instead of non salted water.

Your starifsh might be feeling the effects of any ammonia you have in there, if you have any yet. I'm not too sure what to say about keeping the starfish alive, other than not to let the ammonia get above say 2.0ppm. he might live through that but any higher and its not gonna be good most likely.
I never got any cool hitch hikers, lol, maybe some bristleworms and aipastia. :-(

But it sounds like you have everything you will need to get this tank rolling. Just keep testing. Odd question, but do you know anyone who can starfish sit for you while your tank cycles? Like a friend or even a lfs locally?
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