Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 07-31-2016, 04:26 PM   #21
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
coralbandit's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Saratoga,NY
Posts: 4,528
At 300 GPH overflow you need to have a gate/ball valve to control your pump.
Most run sumps with an overflow that will handle more then needed...
This is to have better control over the flow.The overflow will never move more water then pump feeds it.The pump controls/dictates the amount of water that will be offered to the tank.
I would be careful with a sponge in the overflow box also , as it clogs the water level in your tank will rise and sump will lower....
If you were to use an ATO{Auto Top Off} then it could easily cause your tank to flood.
As fresh said drilling a hole on the return is suggested along with keeping it or one of them at the surface level so it can not syphon..Metal springs in check valves for marine are a no I believe and may cause more head pressure then your pump can handle?

If you feel like drilling your J tube ,you can install a Toms Aqua Lifter pump to make sure you never lose syphon upon power failures ..I would never run an HOB overflow without one personally ,but unlike Fresh I have flooded many tanks over the many years..I no longer use even 1 HOB on my marine tanks anymore as the worry is not needed in my life anymore....
__________________

coralbandit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 09:47 PM   #22
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Skifflexie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by coralbandit View Post
At 300 GPH overflow you need to have a gate/ball valve to control your pump.

Most run sumps with an overflow that will handle more then needed...

This is to have better control over the flow.The overflow will never move more water then pump feeds it.The pump controls/dictates the amount of water that will be offered to the tank.

I would be careful with a sponge in the overflow box also , as it clogs the water level in your tank will rise and sump will lower....

If you were to use an ATO{Auto Top Off} then it could easily cause your tank to flood.

As fresh said drilling a hole on the return is suggested along with keeping it or one of them at the surface level so it can not syphon..Metal springs in check valves for marine are a no I believe and may cause more head pressure then your pump can handle?



If you feel like drilling your J tube ,you can install a Toms Aqua Lifter pump to make sure you never lose syphon upon power failures ..I would never run an HOB overflow without one personally ,but unlike Fresh I have flooded many tanks over the many years..I no longer use even 1 HOB on my marine tanks anymore as the worry is not needed in my life anymore....



Yes, we decided to take the spring check valve back, we haven't found a proper check valve yet.

I'm not sure about where to drill the hole in the the return, any photos would be appreciated. I do want to do so though.

I'm interested in an aqua lifter, I need to do more research about it. I'm not sure how to install one.

I do not have an ATO, so that's one less thing I had to worry about.

The sponge came with the overflow set up, I will keep an eye on it to see if causes issues, if so I'll remove it.





Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________

__________________
Skifflexie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 10:01 PM   #23
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Skifflexie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 260
Also, today I decided to add an algae scrubber. I've been looking into making a DIY one. Any design suggestions would be greatly appreciated! thanks!


Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________
Skifflexie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2016, 05:19 AM   #24
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
coralbandit's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Saratoga,NY
Posts: 4,528
Search 'Santa Monica' for turf algae scrubbers...
An ATO can be as simple as a container and drip line made out of airline that works by gravity...
With small last compartments for pump many have to top off more often then they thought...This is the only place the water level will move in the sump or tank if all is running well.
coralbandit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2016, 06:38 AM   #25
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Fresh2o's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 10,911
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skifflexie View Post
Yes, we decided to take the spring check valve back, we haven't found a proper check valve yet.

I'm not sure about where to drill the hole in the the return, any photos would be appreciated. I do want to do so though.

I'm interested in an aqua lifter, I need to do more research about it. I'm not sure how to install one.

I do not have an ATO, so that's one less thing I had to worry about.

The sponge came with the overflow set up, I will keep an eye on it to see if causes issues, if so I'll remove it.

Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice

I'll try to sketch a pic of the siphon break hole. Just picture the return tube at the part where it meets the water (leading to a spray bar, nozzle, etc). Maybe a 1/4-1/2" above it is a small hole (~1/8") drilled at a 45 degree angle. When water exits the small hole, it leaves at an angle pointing downward to the water's surface. You may want more than one in case there is a clog due to algae, debris, or a wayward invert.
If the sponge is very coarse in the overflow it might be fine.


Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________
I am an ALGAE farmer.
Terms of Service | Community Rules | FresH2O's Planted Tank | Fresh2o's Shrimp Tank
Fresh2o is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2016, 12:56 AM   #26
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Skifflexie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 260
Thanks everyone!

The sponge in the overflow is a course sponge, I plan to keep my eye on it.

We finally got the sump up and running, exactly one week after we started to cut and glue the baffles, though I've been collecting materials for ~3 months. It could of been done faster, but my boyfriend was dragging his feet lol, he was very handy over the weekend though, framing our new bathroom, working on our stairs and even making a dog door. So I can't complain lol

I do have one complaint though... The overflow box is very loud.... How can I fix this???!


We did the power outage simulation, the sump holds the water that is siphoned from the display, no problem, with some room to even spare. the siphon remains intact, and returns to normal when the power is restored. I drilled a small hole on the return nozzle, which stopped the back flow that we encountered in the first test run, before we glued. I am concerned however about the possibility of the siphon being broke if air were to build up, or some other reason, which would cause our display tank to flood. I've heard a little about an aqua lifter pump?? I don't really know much about them besides the name, so if anyone has any info or suggestions that would give us piece of mind. (We have been remodeling- new floors, new trim, etc.... So if my tank leaks, we will have major issues.... Lol
Boyfriend threatened that if it leaks, he will move the tank to the unfinished basement...)

We still have a few things to add, bio balls, refugium plants, and other media.. We also have a check valve that will hopefully work, in the mail. (Which should help, we have our pump at the lowest setting and it's almost too much)

Also, I built an algae scrubber following the "King of DIY"'s super scrubber YouTube video. I'm excited to see how it will do. It's hard to see in my photos, it's the black lid in the refugium section.

Without further ado:

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632123.029963.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	132.3 KB
ID:	288496
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632136.769645.jpg
Views:	36
Size:	134.3 KB
ID:	288497
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632151.530079.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	141.3 KB
ID:	288498
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632167.301833.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	125.6 KB
ID:	288499


Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________
Skifflexie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2016, 12:57 AM   #27
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Skifflexie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 260
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632192.981172.jpg
Views:	38
Size:	153.2 KB
ID:	288500Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1470632220.995790.jpg
Views:	38
Size:	183.3 KB
ID:	288501


Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________
Skifflexie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2016, 12:58 AM   #28
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Skifflexie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 260
Also, I'm still on the hunt for a small skimmer that is under 16-17 inches tall and rated for 65+ gallons. Or potentially a HOB skimmer that is very good and not any eye sore.


Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
__________________
Skifflexie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2016, 05:35 AM   #29
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
coralbandit's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Saratoga,NY
Posts: 4,528
Nicely done!
The toms aqualifter is just like an air pump ,but it sucks and pumps water through it.
You hook it up to the overflow tube and then run airline from tube to pump and back to tank...That easy...You may need the shelf to keep the pump near the overflow box as in the stand may be to much for the pump to draw?

To quiet the overflow a tube placed down the drain tube may help but many just fold a towel up and place it over the box...
HOB
skimmers that are decent, then search for a better price on evilbay/amazon....
__________________

coralbandit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
build, sump

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Overwhelmed by lighting choices Tex General Hardware/Equipment Discussion 2 01-19-2006 01:03 AM
Overwhelmed & in over my head! Might just give up! PICS mardeebo Saltwater & Reef - Identification 21 06-03-2005 12:09 PM
Overwhelmed, how to begina saktwater tank? mikel151 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 9 10-21-2004 04:22 PM
Overwhelmed By Information mcquillian Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 6 12-28-2003 08:02 AM
Completely DIY 100G set up (Tank, stand, sump) Electrobes DIY Projects 9 10-01-2003 01:12 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.