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Old 11-16-2008, 04:54 PM   #31
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:06 PM   #32
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Hi and Welcome to the site. looks like you are off to a great start you seem a bit confused on the plumbing what exact questions do you have? I attached some pics of my return line plumbing its 3/4" to 1" adapter 1" vinyl tubing to 3/4" locline adaptor to 3/4" locline flow directors Hope this helps

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Old 11-17-2008, 11:07 PM   #33
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All plumbing pieces-parts on hand. I'm going to plumb tygon tube off of the overflow barbs and between the main pump and intermediate plumbing so I can remove sections and add flex to the system. Valves and such will be in PVC and pipe clamped to the stand. I'll put a valve on the pump discharge to throttle it and add and extra valve with hose to do water changes. I'm out in the boonies and have a septic tank, so I'll have to pump to a bucket and dump the SW on the driveway (gravel).

Just got FL base rock from marco. They need lessons in packaging. I have about 90 lb. of base. Holding off on live until later. I'm going to sculpt the rock into ledges. Probably 3 tiers for varying light levels so I can do all types of corals and clams. I'll probably support it by drilling and using 316 1/4" stainless rod. I'll epoxy horizontals but leave verticals just rod so I can install/remove the rock in layers. Don't want to have to hoist 150 or 200 lb. into the tank all at once. Bottom will have crevices for cave critters.

Plumbing will probably be done tomorrow. I'll also look at bracing my floor joists. Tank will be next to a wall, so foundation will carry one side and I'll brace just opposite tank center from wall. Probably put levels on tank and have my wife call out zero-bubbles while I'm in the crawlspace running the bottle jacks.

I'll be adding water this coming weekend. Plan on using half of the salt bucket with initial fill (it says for 150 gal. and mine is 120). I'll make minor adjustments from there. I bought 80 lb of live sand and had planned to have a sand substrate in both the tank and the sump. I'm thinking I might put a cotton filter in the inlet or outlet slot of the sump when I do the first fill to get rid of the cloud when you first wet the sand or rock. After running the system, I'd remove it and just use the refugium.

I was thinking I'd just run the system with nothing more than base rock and live sand for a few days (or weeks) while I got used to the plumbing, chemistry, and other stuff. Hoping that the live sand would suffice for a cycle. Once I'm used to that, I'll add some live rock and see what happens. I'll see if LFS has some good green junk to put in the refugium about that time.

Plans are to have:

Corals- not sure what types, but hopefully the lighting, sculpted levels, and everything else would support any type.

Clams- once tank is stable and very clean.

Anemones- blue/green carpet and bubble tip.

Clowns- one or two mated pairs of gold stripe maroon.

Moray- one zebra.

Lions- one pair of antennata.

Crusty's- ????. Would like to keep cheap hermits in the sump to feed the moray. Not sure if any snail or crab would survive in the tank with the above fish. Or could I just keep replenishing them?

Anglers- If the clowns were big enough to avoid predation.

I'm keeping it slow and pacing myself. Hopefully I'm not on any wrong tracks here. Again, any advice is appreciated.
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:45 PM   #34
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Started the official fill. I have the RO system installed. It's painfully slow. I started filling initially from the stub end that would feed the top-off unit, then connected the top-off and will pump from the sump as the sump is filled. I put the first batch of base rock in. I have about 90 lb. in that batch and have about 50 lb. more coming this week. The last of the rock will be live rock to seed the rest of it and I will buy that from the local LFS.

We filled and tested the entire system a few days ago to do leak checks and functional checks of the equipment. I have 1" drains from 2 overflows in the tank and a 1800 gph pump and they seemed to be well matched. Skimmer pump worked fine too, but no indication of function until I get some good goo in the water. I'm already considering the mod on the skimmer to get better bubbling.

I'm really curious about reliability of online purchases of the fish once I get started. I'm not really impressed by the local supplies. Anybody getting good results from online live purchases? Please let me know who doess well with sending fish by mail.

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:00 AM   #35
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Latest update. RO system installed. Tank filled. Rock installed, mostly with reef rock (not live) but I went to the LFS and got two big hunks of live rock and some chaetomorpha to get things going. I've been toying with the chemistry set and haven't noticed anything of consequence. pH is about 8.2, ammonia just about undetectable (maybe 0.1), nitrite same, nitrate almost nil. I was gone over Thanksgiving and could've missed any point in the cycle. SG showed high (about 1.028) but my well water was showing about 1.005, so I need a cal. I have a bottle of DI I got from work that I'll use as my standard, check and adjust this weekend with the first ever water change. We're still trying to figure out a good system to do that. I'm plumbed to do easy draining from the power head, but I still have to take it outside and drain in the gravel because I don't want salt in the septic tank. Moved all cords out of cabinet because I don't want the power strips getting misted by saltwater. It isn't attractive, but I also don't want to burn down the house.

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:06 AM   #36
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Is it possible to order live fish/corals/inverts on line and get good stock?

If so, who is the best online supplier?

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