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Old 03-26-2013, 09:06 PM   #1
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Tank not cycling?

About a month ago I started my tank up and added some cured rock from my other tank and 2 dead shrimp for the ammonia. About a week later my ammonia went up to .5-1.0 and since then (3 weeks ago) nothing! No Nitrites or Nitrates. Some polyps on the LR and featherdusters (tiny red ones) seem to be doing fine.

I tried adding a Perc this weekend and it ended up dying.

Can anybody point me in the right direction? I dont know what to do
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #2
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Could it be that mt cycle came and went and now without any ammonia source died out and I have to start again?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:21 PM   #3
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Could it be that mt cycle came and went and now without any ammonia source died out and I have to start again?
Did you keep the shrimp in the tank after adding the fish?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #4
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Yes, but there's hardly anything left and my ammonia is at zero
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:34 PM   #5
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Do you have any fish in there still?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:53 PM   #6
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I actually found this web site and posted on a forum concerning ammonia.

Let me think ,, oh yes. Pee in your tank.
Seriously, if you don't have/can't get uncontaminated ammonia freely where you are or something. take a cup and pee a little bit in it and add it to your tank.

I've just started my own tank 3 days ago and have done the same thing.
not with fish in there, and I'm not going to put fish in until there is a healthy nitrogen cycle going on and the ph and everything is stable.
I'm not in any rush.

I actually only posted on the site because the comment I spotted said fish urine and human urine need a different bacteria to break down.
This is true initially, as Human urine contains urea, which is then broken down into ammonia by a bacteria that will not hang around once the urea is no longer present and will be replaced by the guys you want that degrade ammonia.

(side note)Urea is what your liver turns ammonia into inside your body as ammonia is toxic to humans. so people with bad livers, kinda suffer ammonia poisoning and that's why they need to go on blood dialysis.
also when we are dehydrated our ammonia levels in our blood increase.

Now the reason i posted was the comment I replied to stated fish have copper based blood and humans have iron based blood so the bacteria will be different. This is false, fish bleed red, red blood cells are found in iron based blood. copper based blood is blue/bluish green and it's what you will find in squid,octopus etc.
Fish blood cells are different to Human blood cells in that they have a black dot on them but they are both iron based.

go on,
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No fish in there. The clown was supposed to be my first. Just the polyps and feather dusters now. Nothing else. Not running carbon or skimmer at any point either an pH at 8.3
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No fish in there. The clown was supposed to be my first. Just the polyps and feather dusters now. Nothing else. Not running carbon or skimmer at any point either an pH at 8.3
Well no ammonia or NO2-,3- is not a cycled tank.
If you had a cycle started there would be at least some readings , something killed your bacteria?
Do you have a chlorine tester?

How big is the tank? What temps are you running?
Salt? Pee in it?
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Here it is for ya. Are you using ro/di water? Tap water? I agree, something killed the good bacteria. New tank? Did you clean it with anything that may have left a toxic residue? Non dechlorinated water?

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/cycle-your-salt-tank/
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