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Old 01-05-2006, 05:02 PM   #11
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agreed, without this site I would not have known about the fishless cycle, the space requirements for saltwater fish, what to test for, where to start troubleshooting certain problems and tons of other good BASIC info that I had not seen before and certainly not as in depth, I would have been heading for what I now know would be a disaster, well wish me luck, the inverts should arrive tommorrow.

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in a new tank with no fish there should be little too no nitrates.. I would not rush into adding inverts and toss in the shrimp for a few days to see what happens.
Nothing good happens fast in this hobby. Feeding a small amount of flake food IMO is not enough to trigger a cycle so go with the shrimp. Waiting a few more days so your sure IMO is the way to go.
Is it possible you had no cycle .. yes if the LR was cured

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Old 01-05-2006, 07:02 PM   #13
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seaham, I added a piece of shrimp last night and still had 0's when tested this morning except for slight nitrate reading, also after feeding the tank little bits of flake with no reading, I started adding quite a bit of flake food last week, and that is when a bit of nitrates were reading. Would this not tell me that if there is enough bacteria to complete the cycle for flake food and half a small shrimp without registering ammonia, then there should be enough for inverts?
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:39 AM   #14
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Go for it! Just don't increase feeding suddenly when you add the inverts.

Nothing wrong with a gradual cycle. You start out with healthy live rock, and you're halfway done with your cycle to start with. The fact that nitrates are presesnt is evidence that a cycle has occured. Flake food is just as good an ammonia source as the shrimp. It provides a more gentle cycle by adding a small amount of ammonia every day instead of front-loading it. The shrimp method stops delivering ammonia after awhile, so despite the hard cycle, by the end you may starve some of your freshly bred bacteria. Feeding flake on a regular basis maintains the bacteria population you built up at a steady level.

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