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Old 08-01-2006, 12:41 PM   #11
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I've added both Nitromax and TLC bacteria cultures I bought from independent fish stores.
Ive never heard of either of these brands, do they come refrigerated? If not they may not be reliable. Biospira is really the only bacteria product ive ever used that actually works, of course it still might help.
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buttercup,

No, they don't come refrigerated, but you have to refrigerate them after using them the first time. The guy I bought the Nitromax from swore by it.

Mike 469,

Could I do the opposite and leave the shrimp in there and take the zebra danios out? Would I get a fishless cycle from that?
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Could I do the opposite and leave the shrimp in there and take the zebra danios out? Would I get a fishless cycle from that?
Yes, in fact I cycled with a shrimp once my ammonia spiked so that I wouldn't have to remember to keep adding more each day.
Do you have somewhere you can bring the danio's ?

If you need links to the fishless cycling articles let me know and I'll post them for you
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Could I do the opposite and leave the shrimp in there and take the zebra danios out? Would I get a fishless cycle from that?
Actually the best and most humane way for the fish.
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I agree taking the danios out and doing a fishless cycle is the most humane. If this isn't practical take the shrimp out and be prepared to do many water changes. Danios aren't able to tolerate ammonia any more than other fish. They may be more hardy but they will still suffer burns. If you choose to do the fishless cycle, pure ammonia can be dosed instead of shrimp, whichever is your preference.
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Good Point Zagz. I think that some LFS sell the word "hardy" as can take anything.
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I think what I'll do is take the fish back to the store to get a store credit tomorrow, and leave the shrimp in the tank. I tested the nitrite today, and it was at 0.50 ppm. Yesterday, it looked like it was around 0.25 ppm. I'm wondering if the nitrite can spike that fast.
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It seems I have been in a similar situation. My ammonia and nitrite sat at .25 while my nitrate was zero. Once my ammonia went slightly about .25 my nitrite went up to .50, now my nitrate has climbed to 20 ppm. The lesson I learned was that it does take "weeks" not days to cycle and that it will happen as the research indicates. I have not added any chemicals other than to treat my tap water for chlorine (Stress Coat). I am using fish to cycle due to lack of knowledge of the fishless cycle, but all seems well. Going to due a big water change due to nitrite level, but I should be close to cycling (a week or two).

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