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View Poll Results: There is so much "Hoopla" on Deep Sand Beds. In your opinion, a DSB is:
The best option we have for substrate right now. 29 55.77%
It's just a "fad" that will fade soon. It's really overrated. 7 13.46%
It's the "In" thing to do! Everyone else says it's great, so it must be... 4 7.69%
Who cares? 3 5.77%
Your CC will be just fine. 9 17.31%
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:49 PM   #21
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People whom have problems with their DSB's do so because they either have the sand bed to deep or dont have enough sand sifting critters in the tank. These critters would include worms, mini stars, amphipods and copepods amongst other small inverts. These sifters will keep the sand from becomming a toxic bomb waiting to explode.

I personally run DSB's on my tanks and one of teh tanks I have running now is going on its 4th year. I know many others who have DSb's in tanks much older than this.

I would definatly not call it a fad.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:35 PM   #22
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hey billy nothing like taking something out of context eh? You call that a personal attack but not what was said to me?
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:28 AM   #23
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Both of you got a bit out of line. It's over and this discussion is moving along fine now. Let's forget about it and call it a heated moment that should not have happened. Instead, let's stick to the subject at hand, which is DSB's, and if we can not agree on any or all points, then we can all take satisfaction in having stated our opinion. Further discussion of the few posts in question should be avoided.
I maintain a 180 with a DSB. So far, I have had no problems with it. Nitrates remain at 0. Fish and corals are happy. Sandbed is full of life. I wouldn't hesitate to set up another tank with a DSB.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:32 AM   #24
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I have always been worried about the downside of dsb
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:37 AM   #25
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Their have always been the two mindsets. The fact is that DSB's have been around for many years and only on a rare occasion do you see people posting about problems as a result of toxic gas buildup in the DSB.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:59 PM   #26
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As an opinion: The DSB is not a fad at all, but it is indeed a matter of preference and maintenence. Without quoting, someone asked about the ability to keep different form of life or greater ability with the DSB. I connot speak of that but I can speak of the opposite. Take elegance and gonipora species for example. They used to be "staple" easy to care for corals. Now they have become some of the more difficult species to keep. There is subjective evidence that these are "dirty water" corals and IMO have become harder to keep because of the advances in water husbandry and our systems are cleaner today then they were in years past.

A DSB will reduce nitrates, this is proven. A DSB is a nutrient sink, but can be maintained with fauna as FF points out above. Yes there are other methods and sure they work. We as hobbiest simply have more options for sucess in the hobby.

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Old 11-05-2004, 10:33 PM   #27
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It's interesting that you mention that Sumphead. My LFS recently talked me out of getting a Gonipora because he said my water parameters were too good. Who ever would have thought?
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just from what ive been seeing and not attacking anything anybody has said here...

it seems a lot of reefers, esp those heavily into corals, have been going back to BB tanks with just starboard to prevent glass breaks, and heavy skimming and powerful filtration andflow. it just seems to me like this makes much more sense- remove waste before it has a chance to break down, poop is not a pet, i dont want it in my tank.

of course it is really a matter of personal opinion. i think that both work fine. for those who feel more comfortable dealing with the natural, then a DSB is probably for you, and if your into the mechanical part of reefing, then BB is probably for you. also its a matter of asthetics, and what you plan to keep in the tank.

for difficult corals like SPS, i would probably go BB to reduce the amount of nusicance algae, phosphates, and nitrates that can sometimes pop up with DSBs, and also because they like extremely high flow and i dont want my sand being blown all over the tank.

then there is people that swear by using an inch of sand or CC, i personally think thats best for fish only tanks or tanks with a few soft corals.

i really think its up to you and that you make it work or not.

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Well said Ms. Kate.

Phases are you telling me a LFS actually talked you out of buying something?!? And based on good advice? Wow, that's a rarity.

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phew... i thought for sure i was going to incite a riot! lol
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