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Old 03-06-2017, 07:29 AM   #1
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Thinking about starting a reef tank again

Hey guys. I have been out the game for a few years now. I had a reef aquarium before but ended up selling it as I moved house.

I was in a garden centre a couple of weeks ago was looking at all their aquariums. I have defiantly got the bug back as I haven't been able to stop thinking about getting a tank!

The thing is this time I want to do it right! When I started up before it was my friend giving me the advice. It was until later that I found out I had basically done everything wrong!! From getting sea from the harbour to cycling my tank with fish! I started to research a lot more because as you can imagine I had a LOT of problems! That's why I sold up and decided that I would start again but do it right from the get go! Obviously I am no expert so just wanted some advice on equipment and cycling etc.

The tank I am looking is 365 litre system (300l tank with 65l sump) which is about 95gal I think.

2x hydra 26hd lighting units

TMC reef skim 500 dc protein skimmer

Fluval sea marine sump pump sp4 (1822 GPH)

Hydor koralia generation 3 5000 circulation pump

2x jäger 300w heaters

My questions are:

1) is this equipment good/sufficient for a reef tank?

2) I know this is an expensive hobby bout could I save money by getting other equipment that is good/reliable but not as expensive?

3) i have read that live sand is a waste of time. Is this the case? Is there a way to calculate how much sand I will need? (Also depth of sand recommendations)

4) I probably will be moving house again in about 5 years. Is it easy enough to move a tank? I don't think I can hold off another 5 years to get a tank.

Any help would be appreciated
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Old 03-06-2017, 12:20 PM   #2
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All of that equipment should be just fine.
Live sand is a waste. You simply need 1 lbs per gallon of sand. You want to get yourself an agragite based sand, but some use pool filter sand as well.
Moving a tank isn't really that hard...just time consuming with tons of 5 gallon buckets.
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Thanks for your reply. is this all the equipment i would need to get started or would you recommend anything else? i have an ro/di unit already. i am just going to start buying items and hold off buying a tank right now. i just want to make sure i get everything i need for keeping fish and corals
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live sand is a waste?????? awwwwwwwwww money wasted

I did one bag of live sand then like 4 or 5 of just regular white sand
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live sand is a waste?????? awwwwwwwwww money wasted

I did one bag of live sand then like 4 or 5 of just regular white sand


I just read that live sand isn't actually live as it has been sitting on a shelf too long. I'm no expert that's why I was asking the question lol.
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God knows how long it sat in the warehouse then on the store shelf . as long as you find a agranite based sand you'll be set it will become live over time . you said your tank is about 95g best answer I can give is put your rock first , reason for this is if fish undermine the rocks this will prevent them from going through the glass , once you do that start with about 75lbs sand than add more if needed . the rock will take a good part of the surface area that needs to be covered
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God knows how long it sat in the warehouse then on the store shelf . as long as you find a agranite based sand you'll be set it will become live over time . you said your tank is about 95g best answer I can give is put your rock first , reason for this is if fish undermine the rocks this will prevent them from going through the glass , once you do that start with about 75lbs sand than add more if needed . the rock will take a good part of the surface area that needs to be covered


Thanks! I will keep that in mind. That's another thing. When arranging live rock is it best to just place rocks on rocks or is there a way to fix them? In my last tank I just placed them but this tank will be way bigger compared to my last one.

I take it LR is best rather than buying a pre made arrangement idea? I believe the LR is better for filtration? Or would porous rock work just as good with some LR added?
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I always try to put eggcrate down before rock this is that little extra insurance that your rock wont crash threw your bottom glass , been there done that not fun ,


there are several ways you can do the rock epoxy together as you go or you can drill and use plastic pins , or they could be glued together these will keep rock from shifting . you can just do the old stacking method but there's always that chance a fish decides to rearrange causing a catastrophic disaster .

as for rock you can go with dry base rock it will become live once you get through your cycle and your guaranteed not to bring in any bad hitchhikers , it's also a lot cheaper on the pocket ,

as for cycling everybody experiences different lengths of time cycling it can be 4 to 8 weeks some even achieve it faster .
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the biggest part is to have patients everything should be done with baby steps this will insure a stable environment add any stock you decide slowly 1 or 2 every few weeks giving the beneficial bacteria time to build up , so it can support your second set of fish ,
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'Live sand' isn't most likely live due to sitting on the shelves for ever. Even with that said, sometimes it is the only way to get sand of a specific color...if that is your thing. I can't think of any other route to get quality pink or black sand.
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Thanks for the help guys! So is there anything else I need to add to the list regarding equipment?

Also I had a canister filter before so I'm new to the whole sump set up. What is best to put in a sump? I know I want my skimmer in there but do I need media etc?
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