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Old 09-27-2012, 01:29 AM   #11
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You don't even need a sump. The purpose is for added water volume and more circulation plus the option of putting all your equipment in there. If your skimmer and pump are large, and you want to put in a refugium, filter sock, and other pumps/reactors, get a large sump...if you feel you have no need for a huge sump, as your skimmer is small and you have not a lot of other equipment, go small, but those are the factors you should consider. It's always said that bigger is better! If you can get your hands on a 500 gallon sump with a 5 foot skimmer and a huge portion being a refugium filled with macroalgae...go for it (bit extreme, but this defines a reef junkie ). Also if you're going FOWLR you could even use a canister filter (some even use them for reef tanks, it just makes doing water changes a higher priority). That is a nice looking sump, but there are a few things to consider. First, in a traditional sump, there is usually a first chamber that holds bioballs or is just where the water enters, then goes to a second chamber with the skimmer, then the spot for a refugium (if you have one), if that's where you want to put it, and finally the section to lead to an external pump, or a large enough space for the internal one. Sumps are really customizable and can be in any pattern really, I was just telling you the basic sumps that are usually sold. Pretty much like this: Aquarium Wet Dry Filters: Aqueon ProFlex Sump Filtration System at Drs. Foster and Smith

Okay sorry for so much, but wait there's more haha! So bioballs are considered an old method of filtration and they can lead to raised nitrates. However, this is perfectly fine for a FOWLR with live rock, as the parameters don't need to be as spot on like with a reef. (You might be able to make it a refugium if you really wanted to). Plus I don't know if you could have such a small pump for the height (head pressure)? Not sure about that completely though...Just might be that the pump isn't strong enough so more water comes in then is returned. Lastly, definitely ask what the skimmer is rated, and what brand (doesn't look like one I know). This looks like a pretty good deal to me and would work just fine for a FOWLR (really most things would), but for a reef tank, I'd go a different route IMO. Thanks for reading such a long post!
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:17 AM   #12
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I was thinking of putting live rock in place of bio balls. The protein skimmer is the same brand it came together, pro clear. Here's an amazon link for it. I read the negative review but it was about warranty. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00061UXXC
I have a rena xp3 but I don't have a skimmer, since this had both I thought it would be a better choice than the Rena? Thoughts? The whole setup is rated for a 125 -150 gallon tank. Any suggestions are great, I don't care how long! The more the better,
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:54 PM   #13
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Do you think I could by with just the Rena xp3 and a skimmer for a fowlr tank? Or should I get that setup and replace bio balls w/ live rock? If I used Rena how often would I need to clean it? Thanks.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:07 PM   #14
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:29 PM   #15
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For 85 bucks it's worth looking at.that could set you up for a while without the I wish I would have done this. Reef is not as hard as it seems, weekly water changes, testing and slowly adding the right stuff will get you there. With your lights mushrooms some polyps and low light softies just do some research.my lfs use wet dry for all there fowlr or with some work you could change that filter around!
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:28 PM   #16
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I just realized I'm not sure if it will fit off the back of my acrylic tank. The pic shows it hanging off a typical glass tank these are the access holes mine have. This is my 1st acrylic tank so I didn't think about it. I sent him an email asking the width. Would the Rena plus a hob slimmer work for a FOWLR tank with maybe some mushrooms & softies? I can probably upgrade down the road I'm just trying to keep start up cost downs. Thoughts anyone?

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:40 PM   #17
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The Rena is a canister filter? With the proper cleaning, water changes and testing you should be alright. The main thing is staying on top of it.you could have someone drill a hole in the tank and you wouldn't even need the overflow box.maybe your lfs could help?
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:38 PM   #18
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I really don't have a great lfs and I'm not sure I trust myself, or my husband, to drill a hole in the tank. Yes, the Rena xp3 is a 3 level canister. How often would I have to do maintenance on Rena vs. the wet/dry? I found a protein skimmer for $40. Just trying to figure out my best options.

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Old 09-27-2012, 06:02 PM   #19
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I do water changes weekly and rinse off my filter pads as needed usually every other week. Both will require maint, kind of matters on your testing high nitrates = water changes and some cleaning.do what you can afford and you will get the hang of it.
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Oh I know both require maintenance I just didn't know if the Rena would require a lot more than the other.
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