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Old 03-12-2015, 06:10 PM   #11
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almost no beneficial bacteria live in water...
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:17 PM   #12
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I'm using the api master saltwater test kit. Plus I bought the calcium and alkalinity test as we. It was the only test I could find that had everything. I wanted to do electronic testing but that seems very expensive. I dont know what else to do as far as testing goes.

I'm going to go ahead and do a huge water change just so I can basically start fresh. Will that be okay or should I do them every few days?

I thought a lot of beneficial bacteria was in the water as well. But thank you for clearing that up for me. Apologies for being such a novice, but always appreciate the help. Thanks guys!



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What test kit are you using?
Did you mix up your salt mix before using it?
Imho, Ignore the lfs employee's advice. It doesn't really make sense.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:37 PM   #14
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I'm using the Api test kits, or, well the master kit and the calcium and alkalinity kit. I mix my salt in a 30 gallon drum but fill it to only about 25 gallons. Then I use a maxi-jet 1200 to mix up the water for about 2 1/2 to 3 hours. And will do, it seems like the lfs guy made a mistake. But I won't hold it against him, haha.


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I'd bet that everything is fine. API tests for anything besides ammonia, nitrate, and nitrite are garbage and are usually wrong.
Why are you worried about the calcium and alk in a new tank?


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Because when I was testing my water, the alkalinity was 15 every time I made more saltwater. Plus in my tank my alkalinity was always 17-18, at one time it was 15 then I checked a few days later and it was back up to 18. It was 5 coming out of my RO unit. And I'm assuming 10 alkalinity was my instant ocean. But I tested the deionized water, now my alkalinity is 1 without salt. I've made more salt water with the tropic Marin this morning and my alkalinity is now in the 9-12 range. But in a simple version I was worried about my alkalinity and calcium because, I thought my high alkalinity would kill the fish and live rock. I did have one fish after I got my alkalinity to 15 and my nitrates and trites back to 0. It went and hid in one of my live rock and when I woke up it was dead. Then I wandered why so I checked my alkalinity and it was 18 again. So I just figured that is what had killed my bicolored angel, which was beautiful by the way.


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Because when I was testing my water, the alkalinity was 15 every time I made more saltwater. Plus in my tank my alkalinity was always 17-18, at one time it was 15 then I checked a few days later and it was back up to 18. It was 5 coming out of my RO unit. And I'm assuming 10 alkalinity was my instant ocean. But I tested the deionized water, now my alkalinity is 1 without salt. I've made more salt water with the tropic Marin this morning and my alkalinity is now in the 9-12 range. But in a simple version I was worried about my alkalinity and calcium because, I thought my high alkalinity would kill the fish and live rock. I did have one fish after I got my alkalinity to 15 and my nitrates and trites back to 0. It went and hid in one of my live rock and when I woke up it was dead. Then I wandered why so I checked my alkalinity and it was 18 again. So I just figured that is what had killed my bicolored angel, which was beautiful by the way.


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If your alkalinity was at 17 to 18 then you would have a very high ph to match it. I would pass the test off as faulty
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Alright, will do. I figured it was because I didn't have enough oxygen in the tank, Even though I thought I had it circulated very well. But this would explain it. What test should I buy that could be more accurate?
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Alright, will do. I figured it was because I didn't have enough oxygen in the tank, Even though I thought I had it circulated very well. But this would explain it. What test should I buy that could be more accurate?
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Thats possible, but very unlikely. Especially with little to no bio load in the tank.

I really like red sea test kits. The Hannah checkers are great too but are a bit expensive.
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I have looked at the Hanna checkers, but they are pretty expensive as you said. I'll look into buying Red Sea test. Can you buy them in a bundle like the Api kit or do they have to be bought separate.


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