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Old 09-06-2004, 01:14 AM   #1
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Time to jump into the salt, 10g marine plans!

I am setting up a new tank as a 10g marine tank. I already have the 10g tank and some of the equipment to get me going. This will be my first marine tank, and I am fully aware that a larger tank would be preferred and easier to maintain. I have a lot of experience with freshwater tanks and have over 1,000 posts over in the freshwater section of this messageboard. This tank will end up in a fish themed baby room (baby not born yet, but coming in the spring). By the time the baby grows up and could possible harm the tank, the whole setup will get moved into a larger tank. For fish, the tank will have two Ocellaris Clowns, tank raised.

I have a very good LFS called Aquatic Concepts in Westbrook, ME that will be supplying me with all of the live rock, inverts, and fish. Only problem is that they charge a lot for equipment and supplies, so I am ordering as much as I can online I would like for people to look over this and give me any advice you may have. I did as much research as possible and have formed a pretty decent plan to get the tank running with the help of the LFS.

Equipment + Setup (Phase 1):
-10g Glass Tank
-Glass Canopy
-Coralife 20inch 34w 50/50 PC Light
-Visitherm Deluxe 50 Heater
-Aquaclear Mini Filter
-Mini Jet 404 Powerhead
-Carib Sea Seaflor Reef Sand
-Oceanic Natural Sea Salt Mix
-Instant Ocean Hydrometer

The powerhead and filter should get me all of the water movement I need. The light should be OK too, I am not going for a full reef setup or anything with hard corals. I am going to get all of that equipment setup, and run the tank for a few days to make sure all of the equipment is fine and let substrate settle until the water is clear.

Live Rock + Cycle (Phase 2):

-10+ Pounds Live Rock From LFS
-Tetra Laborette Test Kit
-Tetra Nitrate Test Kit
-Kent Superbuffer
-Kent Kalkwasser

Once the tank settles, I am going to check the water parameters and pick out some nice live rock. The LFS has a lot of very pourous pieces so 10 pounds should go pretty far, if not, I can get more. The Superbuffer and Kalkwasser were reccomended to me to get the levels to the right place only if needed. Once the live rock is in the tank, I will wait for the tank to cycle and start seeding some bacteria around in the substrate. Once everything is cycled, I will do a small water change.

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-30# Live Rock
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Old 09-06-2004, 01:14 AM   #2
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Inverts (Phase 3)

-Clean Up Crew From LFS
-GE Light Timer

This is a variety package of snails, crabs, and maybe a Star of some form. It goes by tank size so they have something appropriate for a 10g. This should clean up any dead material on the live rock, and any algae that may have formed. Once these go in, I will wait for the tank to cycle again, if needed. I am not certain of having a star at this point, though I may end up paying for it with the clean up crew, then picking it up later when I get the fish.

Fish! (Phase 4)

-Two Tank Raised Clowns, 1 inch each
-Ocean Nutrition Formula One Small Marine Pellets
-Ocean Nutrition Formula Two Small Marine Pellets
-Hikari Freeze Dried Brine Shrimp
-Various Frozen Food
-Cleaner Shrimp?

At this point, I will purchase the two fish and acclimate them to the tank. I am going to be comparing my water parameters to those at the LFS so everything should be matching up pretty good. Those three foods should be able to get me started, and I have a lot of frozen food I can feed them as well. I really would like a cleaner shrimp at this point, but if it is overkill, I can go without it.

Corals + Moonlight (Phase 5)

-Blue LED Moonlight
-Two Newbie Friendly Corals

Once I get the fish into a routine and everything is OK, I am going to pick up some beginner friendly corals and a moonlight. I was told Mushrooms and Polyps are good to get started? I can work out those details later. When I figure out the newbie corals, I can get more complicated from there. The moonlight will be for when the baby wakes up during the night. Myself or my wife can rock the baby back to sleep while watching the tank in the moonlight

So, that is my plan right there. Am I missing anything? Are there better options for anything on my list? Any pointers? Should I change the food? Is this a good plan? I really appreciate anyone who read through this! Thanks!
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-30# Live Rock
-Mixed Snails (Nassarius // Cerith // Astrea // Black Turbo // Mexican Turbo)
-8x Blue Leg Hermit Crabs // 1x Banded Serpent Star // 1x Cleaner Shrimp
-1x Royal Gramma // 1x Percula Clownfish
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Old 09-06-2004, 01:23 AM   #3
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So you plan on making this a reef tank? I would add 1 or 2 cleaners, just because they are friendly and help clean off parisites from the clowns. What type of corals do you plan on adding? Is the LR cured? I like that your going to cycle the tank with the lr, that is a very good boost for you tank I would wait for a few months after the tank has cycled to put any of corals in, it is important to wait. Btw, I would wait a few days after your first test that shows good cycle, because you want to be safe than sorry, because I made a mistake and it turned out that my tank went over another cycle, because of that I lost 2 damsels and a coral banded shrimp.
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Old 09-06-2004, 01:46 AM   #4
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So you plan on making this a reef tank?
Eventually it will end up as a reef tank. I want to make sure I do things slowly and work my way up to it and gain experience

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I would add 1 or 2 cleaners, just because they are friendly and help clean off parisites from the clowns.
Do these add to the bio-load? Just curious... I really do like the shrimp, I was not sure if the LFS was trying to encourage me not to get the shrimp or something.

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What type of corals do you plan on adding? Is the LR cured?
Not sure on the corals just yet. The LFS has about 75 marine tanks and a large selection that varies every time I am in there. Once I am ready for the corals, I will go with whatever they have in stock for medium light Mushrooms or Polyps that are hardy and start from there. The Live rock is cured from the LFS. They have one large tank with rock ready for sale, and multiple other tanks with rock curing.

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I like that your going to cycle the tank with the lr, that is a very good boost for you tank Very Happy I would wait for a few months after the tank has cycled to put any of corals in, it is important to wait.
Cycling with the live rock was highly reccomended. They also reccomend I pick up another small piece of rock when I get the clean up crew just to mix things up. No problem on waiting for the corals, I would like to get experience with the FOWLR before adding corals anyway. Like I said, I am trying to make this whole process as smooth as possible. I have much patience for fish

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Btw, I would wait a few days after your first test that shows good cycle, because you want to be safe than sorry, because I made a mistake and it turned out that my tank went over another cycle, because of that I lost 2 damsels and a coral banded shrimp.
Good advice there. The LFS is not exactly "local" so it takes me some effort to get down there anyway. I need to plan a couple days ahead so there would be a delay as it is.

This whole tank idea started because my father in law bought our unborn baby a framed 25 inch limited edition giclee print of this scene:



The print cost more than the tank will cost 8O
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*15H marine*
-30# Live Rock
-Mixed Snails (Nassarius // Cerith // Astrea // Black Turbo // Mexican Turbo)
-8x Blue Leg Hermit Crabs // 1x Banded Serpent Star // 1x Cleaner Shrimp
-1x Royal Gramma // 1x Percula Clownfish
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Old 09-06-2004, 01:57 AM   #5
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Sounds like you are well on your way, and you have thought through this alot better than I ever did.

You are going to love your new sw tank. Congrats on the new little one thats coming, sounds like a great idea for the babys room!

PS. Your plan sounds like a winner to me.
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about the cleaner shrimp: no they dont add to your bio load so dont worry about that... u can add one or two but just make sure they arent fighting for territory or something... if that happens pick your favorite and return the other one.

As per the star: you can get one, yes it would be nice if it remained small... but id maybe wait until you got ur two clowns in.. if they are ok for a bit a star would be a fun addition... imo if u can get an algae loving star.. more the better...

the tank sounds great... its actually very similar to the tank i set up for my GF at her house shes got two clowns, clean up crew, and a little red indo star... she also has a clown coby which is very tiny but i wouldnt recommend doing that unless your willing to be frequent with the water changes...

also atm her tank is playing host to my pom pom crab and pistol shrimp until i get my ten set up

hope you have fun!!!!
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Since it is for a baby's room. Can yoy cut a small hole in the wall and put the tank in there? With acess only from the other side, "little helper" feedings won't happen
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my only comments on your list would be to ask why the kalkwasser and marine buffer? Most likely you will need neither of those things. A 10 gallon tank is very easy to do water changes on and with a good quality salt you will be fine. My thoughts are this, in this hobby there are so many things we CAN spend our money on that the things we get that we dont need, just take away from the fun stuff

If for some reason, you need it down the road then pick it up.
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I plan on either saving up money and buy a nano cube and make it a reef, or just buy a 10g tank and breed clowns. I m not sure though, breeding clowns sound like hard work
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its always great to see somebody who does their research and creates a plan before diving into salt. i have a tank that sounds a lot like that (its actually the home of my breeding ocellaris couple) and i think its a nice easy way to get into salt.

best of luck to you! your plan sounds great.
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