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Old 01-12-2006, 03:19 PM   #11
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No more outbursts or condescending comments, ok?

I too, think that 2 false percs would be fine in a 20gal, but that'd also be the max. stocking level for fish. Add an appropriate starfish, shrimp, corals (if lighting permits) and you'd have a nice setup.

And as Fluff points out, a cleanup crew isn't needed just yet, and while a snail or two doesn't add much to the bioload, adding a 'package' gives a noticiable increase in bioload due to shear number of living creatures added.

This isn't a very quick, speedy hobby...the slower and more methodically you go about things, the better the chance for 'easy success'.

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Sorry sango, Fluff, & malkore for getting personal. I’ll try to stay “on topic”. My definition of overstocked is much more than most and I’m sorry.


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My definition of overstocked is very simple.

If all your pumps fail for a period of 12 or more hours will your fish sufficate due to lack of oxygen? If so your overstocked no mater how well your water conditions are when all your equipment is running.

With that said I also feel that 2-3 fish would be the max for a 20 gal tank. Given its a 20 long you can technicly get by with more fish than a 20 H because there is more surface area for gas exchange but you also must take into account the fish's agressivness as a factor when it comes to overcrowding.

I hold to the school of understocking. As an example I have a single yellow tail damsel in my 20H, a flame angel, bicolor damsel, yellow tang in my 75 and in my 80 a powder blue tang, coral beauty, hawk eye goby, and two yellow gobies. I have seen people have all those fish in a single 75 before. If your pumps work than they can live with out issues but if your pumps fail for a period of a few hours you will have deaths.
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While agree that two smaller-species clowns will do just fine in a 20gal, I also suggest NOT adding them at the same time in a newly cycled tank. A 20gal is not all that big and the slower you take things the better off you will be. Add one, test water parameters daily for a couple of weeks and, if all is okay, add the second one. I would say you could add maximum two more fish to the tank over time for a total of four (depending on species). A royal gramma and purple firefish would be nice. A sixline wrasse is another option.

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