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Old 12-04-2003, 09:39 PM   #11
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Oh but you will have children. Children with different species and genus, mouthful scientific names, and pictures readily available.
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Old 12-05-2003, 01:06 AM   #12
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How true!
I have pictures of my 2 bettas (now in fishy heaven) laminated and in my wallet!
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:37 AM   #13
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LOL I could see that judging from my current fascination with just a pile of rocks in a big wet box..
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:46 AM   #14
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Dont lose hope Doan. By christmas your tank should be over this rut of brown algae.

Are you using RO water for your tank or are you using tap water? If your using tap water do you have access to a phosophate test kit? In your inital post you said no ammonia but did not mention the other permaiters like nitrite and nitrate.

All three of those can be fuel for algae.
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Old 12-05-2003, 10:41 AM   #15
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Get some turbo snails and place them on the LR. They will clean it up in no time. Also, agressive Skimming is the way to go. If possible, check your phosphate and silicate reading. Add polyfilter will also help.
I had the same Diatoms bloom in my tank a month ago, and it is spreading to my LR and sand. Since adding the Snails, the LR look great. My polyfilter, Hermit crabs and my Remora is slowly making my sand turn white again. As of yesterday, only a small portion of the sand has some brown algae.
Also wait for the Macro Algae to grow to compete against it. As you see more and more of the Corraline Algae, you will see less nuisance algae.
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Old 12-05-2003, 11:02 AM   #16
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Thanks for the help guys. unfortunately I am stuck using treated tap water. There is just no way I am gonna be able to hook up a RO system in my kitchen.. Lack of space and everything else. I also have only one bathroom so I am a little stuck.. Do you think If I threw in a Turbo snail or 3 and maybe an emerald crab it would help. Also more importantly would they live. With the Rock and all the LFS guy said that cycling would take 2 weeks so I figure it is about half done but I have made the commitment that I Will not kill anything knowingly.. I think that I would really be doing a disservice to not only the snails and the crab but to all of you who are helping me and love not only the hobby but also the ocean. I think taking something out of the ocean and killing it because I am bored would just make me someone who should not be in this hobby. That being said picking up snails and mabye a crab would sure make this more fun off the bat. As for fish Not until Dec 29th when I get back from my Christmas trip at the earliest..and honestly before the fish I really want 2 cleaners and 2 pepperment shrimp or blood red shrimp.. Somhow I got into the hobby because of the fish and coral and currently am all about the inverts.. Strange hunh?

As for other levels my ph is 8.2 and my nitrates are closer to 2.5 the nitrites however are .25 Salt I am very proud of .023 (it's all that I can really figure out at this point )

I dunno what do you guys think??
honestly I will not do it if you guys think it would be death sentence, but if you think they might be ok I MIGHT put them in. I dunno I have to say I am little distraught that I got no cool criters with my rock.. I thought for sure 50lbs would have something..but like I said I couldn't just send critters off to a little Doan Auschwitz because I am bored..(mabye excited would be a better word than bored)
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If your tank is not cycle, then don't put any livestock in there. Do you have a good skimmer? Do water change more frequently to export the nutrients out. Add a polyfilter and activated carbon will help. And lastly just wait and wait.
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Old 12-05-2003, 11:30 AM   #18
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ok Thanks for the advice
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actually if you are still cycling you should NOT do water changes. Water changes, because you only have access to tap water, only adds more phosphates and nutrients to the water for the algae to feed off of. Doing water changes even with RO water will prolong the cycle as the high levels of the other elements are whats needed for the cycle to progress. You mentioned you also did a rather large water change... the same day as the hockey game? I'm thinking the water change just preceding the longer lighting that the tank was acustomed to is what caused your bloom.

here's my suggestions:

no more water changes until your ammonia = 0 and nitrites = 0. At this point your nitrates will still be high but those are the slowest to come down and this is the last stage of the cycle, which is when you should do your first water change.

do you have access to a large super market? if so, they often sell distilled or RO water by the gallon. check out the cost and see if it's feasible for you. If so, I would highly recomend using that over tap water. You can also check with your LFS, they often sell RO water rather cheaply.

Put your lights on a timer so they are on for a couple hours when you are typicaly in the room. This will give you some peekaboo time while ensuring they're not on too long.
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do you have access to a large super market? if so, they often sell distilled or RO water by the gallon. check out the cost and see if it's feasible for you.
Doan, I see you're from Pittsburgh too

Our Shop 'n Save has a RO machine. It's 79 cents a gallon if you use their container, and 39 cents a gallon if you bring your own container or refill the one you purchased at 79 cents again. If your tank is real big this may be inconvenient, but just wanted to let you know!
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