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12-04-2005, 03:18 PM
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#1 | | Aquarium Advice Activist
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 185
| Undergravel Filter
I was told that UGF were old technology and bad for freshwater, however I found a few articles saying they were great for saltwater tanks...
Is this true? Or is a HOB still better... also would a powerhead still be needed if the UGF is ok? http://www.aquariumguys.com/aquarium...l-filters.html Quote: |
For many saltwater fish tank setups an aquarium undergravel filter is the best choice. AquariumGuys recommends undergravel filters for use in saltwater, fish-only aquariums. Be sure to properly maintain your aquarium undergravel filter to prevent damage to your saltwater environment.
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12-04-2005, 04:02 PM
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#2 | | Aquarium Advice Freak
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 429
| UGF was a fantastic choice, oh, back in the 1980s or earlier. The hobby/science has progressed far since then.
No one uses UGF anymore, it has way too many problems. The best filter in SW is lots of live rock + skimmer + a refugium with macro algae. The next best is live rock + skimmer, followed by live rock.
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flame angel, mated pair of false perc, 6-line, firefish
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12-04-2005, 04:34 PM
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#3 | | Aquarium Advice Activist
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN
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| Thats what I thought. I was recently told by a guy who breeds cichlids that it was wrong and that UGF was the absolute best filter. He said it was superior to HOB and canister....
It caught me off guard completely... He runs a business setting up tanks for local businesses and sells bred cichlids to a lot of pet stores around the area. | |
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12-04-2005, 06:22 PM
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#4 | | SW Reef 11+ years Community Moderator
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| I totally agree 100% with theatrus | |
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12-04-2005, 06:42 PM
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#5 | | Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Savage, MN
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| UGF are very out-dated. The best choice is a LS bed, 1.5-2lbs per gal of LR and aggressive skimming. HOB/canisters/wet-drys will provide a place for mechanical filtration and chemical filtration if desired.
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12-05-2005, 10:15 AM
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#6 | | Aquarium Advice Freak
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pensacola
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| i have a friend who uses, loves, and has great success with her UGF...
everyone is different, and success is found in many places...
I myself went with sand and no UGF
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75g w/ 30g sump, 160# LR, 60# sand: Inverts =18 turbos, 30 nassirus's, 40 blue leg's, 5 emeralds, 1 CBS, 1 skunk cleaner, 1 brown gulf shrimp? and various other LR hitch hikers yet un discovered or un- ID'ed
Fish=1 yellow tang, 1 yellow headed jawfish, 1 pink/blue shrimpgoby, 2 perc clowns.
Future fish = 1 sixline, 1 lawnmower blenny
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12-05-2005, 11:06 AM
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#7 | | Aquarium Advice Activist
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN
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| If you went with an undergravel filter would you still need a powerhead to create current? Would the Sand go over the UGF and then the LR on top of that?
This is just curiousity really because I have not yet decided I am going to switch over my 56 gallon. I may just buy a 125 gallon and start new with the whole SW tank. | |
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12-05-2005, 11:14 AM
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#8 | | Aquarium Advice Freak
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pensacola
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| yes, an UGF is just another filtration method... one that is currently less popular then it has been in the past...
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75g w/ 30g sump, 160# LR, 60# sand: Inverts =18 turbos, 30 nassirus's, 40 blue leg's, 5 emeralds, 1 CBS, 1 skunk cleaner, 1 brown gulf shrimp? and various other LR hitch hikers yet un discovered or un- ID'ed
Fish=1 yellow tang, 1 yellow headed jawfish, 1 pink/blue shrimpgoby, 2 perc clowns.
Future fish = 1 sixline, 1 lawnmower blenny
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12-05-2005, 12:32 PM
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#9 | | Aquarium Advice Activist
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Central Kentucky
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| How does one go about setting up a LR filtration? What is required, besides the obvious LR, sand and skimmer? | |
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12-05-2005, 01:33 PM
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#10 | | Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Savage, MN
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How does one go about setting up a LR filtration?
| It is as simple as putting cured LR in the tank. 1.5-2lbs/ gal. Quote: |
What is required, besides the obvious LR, sand and skimmer?
| That is a bout it. Add a couple of powerheads for circulation.
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