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Old 09-21-2011, 02:21 PM   #11
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After reading again I'm thinking the fail safe is the fact that if it did fail the sump would fit into th dt without spillage. I got it now. Sorry all.
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Thanks for the feedback Davis!

I'm pretty new to all this so I made a few design decisions that may or may not be valid. Basically I was using half the sump tank volume to help protect against the possibility of a flood – I may have more reserve room than I need. Also – i set the water levels based on the water level needs of the Skimmer and the height restraints within the cabinet.

Basically the Skimmer is about 19.5" high, the cabinet has about 25" of height inside. The skimmer needs a water level of about 7-8 inches for proper operation, and about 1-2 inches of clearance to remove the cup.
I figured I would use a 3-4 inch stand to bring the water level up to about 12 inch.

Then use go with about 10 inches of water for the refugium which gives me about 1-2 inches of incline to help drain water from the sump to the refugium

I had considered using the center area for the pump(s), but I was concerned about drilling holes into the primary support area of the stand, which appear to be the three walls that make up the center column. Any thoughts on this? Do you guys think a few properly placed 1-1.5" holes would weaken the structure?

The pump, which I already have is a Blueline HD30-X. Not sure this is the right pump for the job, but if not, i can probably return it and get something else if need be.

I maybe over thinking this whole thing, but that's probably better than under-thinking it
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:35 PM   #13
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I'm sorry but is the tank drilled? What would stop the pump from emptying the sump into the dt?
No, unfortunately the tank is not drilled. But I'm thinking some sort of float switch or something in refugium area to switch the pump off should the water level drop too much.
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You only wanna do this once so over thinking is a good thing. This is a great place to bounce idea off each other I've found. Still early in the day but the real experts should be on later to either punch holes in your theories or to add helpful information on making it all work.
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You only wanna do this once so over thinking is a good thing. This is a great place to bounce idea off each other I've found. Still early in the day but the real experts should be on later to either punch holes in your theories or to add helpful information on making it all work.

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OK - newbie question, what does DT stand for (Down Tube)? I looked at this thread, but it wasn't listed :-/
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LOL David. I was wondering if anyone would catch that. I was going to say something but I am far from a pretend expert let alone a "Real Expert".
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Thanks for the feedback Davis!

I'm pretty new to all this so I made a few design decisions that may or may not be valid. Basically I was using half the sump tank volume to help protect against the possibility of a flood – I may have more reserve room than I need. Also – i set the water levels based on the water level needs of the Skimmer and the height restraints within the cabinet.

Basically the Skimmer is about 19.5" high, the cabinet has about 25" of height inside. The skimmer needs a water level of about 7-8 inches for proper operation, and about 1-2 inches of clearance to remove the cup.
I figured I would use a 3-4 inch stand to bring the water level up to about 12 inch.

Then use go with about 10 inches of water for the refugium which gives me about 1-2 inches of incline to help drain water from the sump to the refugium

I had considered using the center area for the pump(s), but I was concerned about drilling holes into the primary support area of the stand, which appear to be the three walls that make up the center column. Any thoughts on this? Do you guys think a few properly placed 1-1.5" holes would weaken the structure?

The pump, which I already have is a Blueline HD30-X. Not sure this is the right pump for the job, but if not, i can probably return it and get something else if need be.

I maybe over thinking this whole thing, but that's probably better than under-thinking it
Drilling 2 holes would be fine, also you dont need an incline from the skimmer tank to the return pump tank because the flow from the pump will keep the flow moving,This setup will work as its basically the same as mine which has been running for over 2 years,I also have 2 sumps due to the stand makeup,there's a few photo's in my profile.
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Oh guys, you know I didn't mean it like that

I mean the mr x's and melousi and the others who have been doing this stuff for decades. lol

We all cool guys? Sorry I SOO didn't mean for it to sound like that.
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LOL David. I was wondering if anyone would catch that. I was going to say something but I am far from a pretend expert let alone a "Real Expert".
LOL. I thought I'd throw that in
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