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Old 11-04-2011, 09:00 PM   #1
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Upgrade 180/220 Reef?

So I am contemplating my next move as far as tanks. If I were to upgrade from the 125g what size should i consider? I know most would be all about the 220g right off the bat, but in a real world, taking all into consideration is it still the best choice?

I would like to use my existing lights, the 6 foot nova extreme pro 12 bulb setup and my current sump/refugium which is supposed to be rated for up to 225g. In either scenario 180 or 220 I would need a new skimmer I already figured. I also have a 1200gph overflow box if the new purchase isnt drilled. What else would I need? I also would get two more powerheads to join the two 1400 Koralias I currently have. or go all out and get a vortech, but thats a big maybe lol

So I guess what I wanna know is, which size would be best, if my 12 bulb lights would be enough to penetrate a 30" tall tank and if theres anything else I may need for an upgrade.

Thanks for reading this long post everyone!!!

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Old 11-04-2011, 09:54 PM   #2
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I had a 180gallon living with me for about (8) years... empty. It had a good size stand and a large canopy. This thing was enormous. Literally took up an entire wall in my home office.

I would have to believe that when I decide to go back to a large reef, I'm going with a 180. I think it will be plenty to take care of.

I think that your sump will handle a 180 gallon better.

As far a PH's. I think that a couple more koralias would be my option over the MP's. The only reason is the ability to position and I can't see such a large benefit to offset the cost.

As far as the bulbs, I'm running a (4) bulb T5 over my 54 corner which is 24" deep and everything on the sandbed seems to be thriving. I gotta imagine a 12 bulb would be fine, IMO of course.

Cost would be a factor for me to. The amount of money I would sink into corals would be astounding... plus the maintainence difference.

For a final thought, 180's, at least around me, are more common to see on CL. In fact I think over the past 6 months, I've only seen 2 or 3 220's.

For me the 180 will be my goal at least.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:06 PM   #3
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Hey, thanks for the input. I'm also thinking the 180 will be easier to work on. Isn't the only difference between the 180 and 220 is the depth? I would so much prefer the shorter depth but I really want a 24" width, the 18" I have just isnt cutting it. lol

As far as the lights, I would **think** they'd be ok for the 180 but again, the 220 is a bunch deeper. Around me it's the 220's that are available more than 180's. Theres one I can get for $300 for black tank and black stand.
Kinda just tossing some ideas around see where it gets me...

Plus, what, as far as fish can I get with a 220 that i can't get with a 180? Theres the magic question.
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Hey, thanks for the input. I'm also thinking the 180 will be easier to work on. Isn't the only difference between the 180 and 220 is the depth? I would so much prefer the shorter depth but I really want a 24" width, the 18" I have just isnt cutting it. lol

As far as the lights, I would **think** they'd be ok for the 180 but again, the 220 is a bunch deeper. Around me it's the 220's that are available more than 180's. Theres one I can get for $300 for black tank and black stand.
Kinda just tossing some ideas around see where it gets me...

Plus, what, as far as fish can I get with a 220 that i can't get with a 180? Theres the magic question.
IMO ,no difference..Like you said ,its the same footprint ,,unless its a custom...I'd still want the 220..No reason really.I guess just to say i had it
Plus ,if you can get one for 300 ,,well,thats a heck of a deal
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Anyone else? lol Opinions and thoughts are wanted!
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:02 AM   #6
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I agree, if the 220g is deeper, it might be a little harder to move rocks/corals around.
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If I were to upgrade from my 125, I would go with either the Perfecto Deep Dimension 300 (72x36x27) or an 8' 265 (84x24x30). Go Big or Go Home.
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Shoot, I would settle for a 90. LOL Ok, that isn't true. I suspect that once I upgrade from my baby 45 it won't matter what size I go with, it won't be "Big Enough". LOL
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I like the 180 gallon. I am working on mine as we speak. It's a big tank but it's still manageable size and you won't have to go swimming to clean it.
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thats the same debat as i was going through the 220 is tall and a pain to rework rocks or get to the bottom of. the 180 is 2"s taller then your 125 but it is 6 inches from front to back so there is alot more swiming room for tangs and larger fish and is alot easier for them to turn, although the way mr.x is doing his with the deep sand bed to raise things up would work well
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