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Old 09-17-2004, 01:40 AM   #11
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I don't think the side would get damaged. With the weight of the water pushing against the rock I don't think it could possibly fall fast enough to crack the side. Even if it could you would need a pretty tall piece of rock weighing like 30# to crack the side (considering it isn't tempered which most should be I believe).
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:02 AM   #12
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Well I wouldn't...
Why not? I inquired before as to what "stuff" would get caught in the squares as you mentioned before. At the very bottom of a sandbed, if you are getting a major buildup of detritus, you have much bigger problems to worry about then egg-crate material. Regardless, the egg-crate is no different than having a regular sand bottom...any infauna that may dip into the anoxic layers do not move strictly laterally anyway.

IMO, it is not necessary (stack your base on the glass, then add the subsrate) BUT if it makes you feel safer, I would use it.
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:20 PM   #13
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I've never even considered the possibility of the bottom of the tank getting damaged this way.. it just doesn't seem like an issue. I can't imagine it causing any problems if you do decide to go with it, but those could be famous last words so IMO it's an unnecessary risk.
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:22 PM   #14
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You could even cut a few pieces of PVC pipe short to lift it off the bottom a little. Then it would become a total non-factor.
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Using the eggcrate or other support system is just cheap insurance against a rockslide. On the off chance that a rock hit the bottom glass hard enough to break it, the eggcrate distributes the pressure and nothing happens.

In reality, it take a lot to break that glass anyway. One of the LFS near me has two 40g tank with live rock. He literally drops the rocks right into the tanks and then bang around with no ill effect.

Regardless, I used eggcrate on the bottom of my new 10g nano tank since I could not verify if the glass was tempered or not. I wish I raise the eggcrate above the bottom of the tank, but it is too late to worry about it now.
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i dont see the point in using it if you have doubts about it...it will be a royal pain to take out once everything is in there
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:55 PM   #17
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i dont see the point in using it if you have doubts about it...
I don't see why there are doubts, people use it all the time, although I would be interested to hear and discuss specific negative issues that could arise. It is also used to have a sandbed with larger sandbed digging livestock to block them from going too deep. www.wetwebmedia.com has a whole FAQ mentioning using it for a variety of applications.
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I think its a great idea. When your aragonite sandbed starts to dissolve you don't know how it will affect your structure. (unless you stack the rocks on the glass bottom). Some folks use pvc stands under the eggcrate to raise it off the tank bottom. You could drill holes in the PVC to prevent stagnant water. The great thing about using the stands is that you do not waste alot of rock under the sand. I wish I had done it but learned about it later on.
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I don't think the side would get damaged. With the weight of the water pushing against the rock I don't think it could possibly fall fast enough to crack the side. Even if it could you would need a pretty tall piece of rock weighing like 30# to crack the side (considering it isn't tempered which most should be I believe).
I'm not sure if most tanks are tempered all around. Mine is only tempered on the bottom... its a AGA tank.
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Then why are you asking then?
Use it...
and let us know how it turns out..
I gave my reasons why I wouldn't..
I don't see the benifits of it at all..
I dont' see any side effects of nto using it.
My rock is on my glass. No problems.
I think it would be a problem IMHO...
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