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Old 10-14-2005, 10:21 PM   #11
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you want something like that..The water would be collected from the surfase of the water, as wide as possible and it would be best if you didnt put more flow through your skimmer then what it needs to operate at optimum effecency..
closed loop or power heads for the rest of your flow needs..
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:22 PM   #12
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IMO I would want raw protein rich overflow water directly entering both skimmer and fuge. That's why my drain is split between the skimmer and fuge. The water directly drains inside my skimmer body and the pump is setup as a recirculator. The reason greenmaji suggested the horizontal overflow is because it takes a thin slice of water directly from the top which is where the proteins will accumulate.
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:30 PM   #13
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spliting the overflow line is also an option as saltwatersmac mentions.. feeding the skimmer just what it needs to operate most effecently and the rest to the fuge..
thats why he suggests having the return pump section in the middle, so the water from the skimmer and fuge can be processed and returned without redundance water filtration..
Im wondering if anyone has actually tested if the fuge can remove any more from well skimmed water, like NO3 and PO4.. but really alot of the NO3 should be removed by the LR..
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:53 PM   #14
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oh i see.
So i should place the fuge on one side. and the skimmer on the other and the return in the middle.
I dont want to overload my skimmer to where its not doing its job.
But how will i know how many GPH i am sending down to my sump?
because im not going to be using a regular overflow. I am going to be using bulkheads to let the water flow down.
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Old 10-15-2005, 04:19 PM   #15
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like this?
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:29 PM   #16
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Yes like that.
The amount of water going down the drain will be however much your return pump is putting back in your tank. Don't forget to figure in head loss. Make sure your bulkheads can handle more than this amount for a little added safety.
As far as overloading your skimmer its best to have a small amount of flow into it. It was recommended that my ASM G3 only have about 200 gph feeding it for optimum efficiency. As far as flow through the fuge some like it to be real low and others recommend around 10-20 times flow. I will be running 200 gph through my 15 gal fuge so that it just doesn't become an area to build up with junk.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:23 PM   #17
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Ok, great. so i guess im on the right track.
What fittings or bulkheads should i use in my tank for the return water?
Any links would be helpful.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:36 PM   #18
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That would depend on the amount of flow your working with.
Do you have a skimmer yet or one picked out to buy, or build?
Have you deisded how much flow to put through your fuge?
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:45 PM   #19
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I want a god one. lol
havent decided yet. For the water flowing down, I am going to use Three 1inch bulkheads. and for the return water i dont know if i should drill and place three more bulkheads or what.

The fuge flow i would like low. but the flow through the skimmer (in the seperate space) would depend on the max performance of the skimmer.
I already have the design in mind for my sump. now i need to figure out how i want the water returned to the tank by what pump and what skimmer to use.
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:17 PM   #20
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This is an overall good site for info and suggestions. It gave me some good ideas. The sump design we've been talking about is also in there.
http://www.melevsreef.com/
You could simply make the return go over the back. If you want a low flow fuge I would suggest a relatively low flow sump also. A return pump including head uses quite a bit of electricty for the amount of water your going to be moving. I would suggest making the rest of your flow in the main tank with a closed loop pump and multuple returns. You may even use one of the three bulkheads in your tank as the intake on the closed loop pump. Whatever size tank you have you need to shoot for at least 10x turnover preferably closer to 20x. Decide what skimmer to use and the optimum gph going though it and the amount you want through the fuge. Then you can select a pump that will deliver that amount. Here is a good head loss calculator for various pumps
http://www.reefcentral.com/calc/hlc2.php
A good read about flow through fuges. Remember 10x through a 15 gal fuge is only 150 gph. That's not a lot.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=462212
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