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Old 03-17-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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Where to put the refugium?

I am designing a 4 ft. sump tank (18" deep, 20" tall). Setting it up with 3 compartments, Is it best to put the refug. in the middle or at the end. PS in the remaining compartment. My return pumps are capable of about 3000 gal. an hour. Would this be to much flow for the refug. if it was in the middle ? Should I put the refug. at the end and divert about 25 percent of the total over flow to its compartment and have it overflow into the middle with the protein skimmer at the other end also overflowing to the middle. My main tank is 220g. Any comments would be appreciated.
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i would put the refugium after the skimmer and before the return. you want pods and such to make it back to the display. no sense in running them through the skimmer first.
you definitely don't need 3000gph running through the sump either. half that is plenty.
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have skimmer,and heaters in first then baffles into return pump section and fuge in last section flowing back to return,fed with 25% from DT.Simple and effective.
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i would put the refugium after the skimmer and before the return. you want pods and such to make it back to the display. no sense in running them through the skimmer first.
you definitely don't need 3000gph running through the sump either. half that is plenty.
what do I do with all the extra flow? I was thinking of teeing off my pump discharge and controlling the flow to the refug. Intake and skimmer at one end, refug. at the other and return pump in the middle. The refug. will have a nice gentle flow going through it spilling over to the return pump section.
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i don't know why you need that kind of pump at all. i would put a ball valve on it and choke it down until i was satisfied. you don't need 2500 gph through the sump if all you have in there are some heaters and a skimmer that has a 500gph pump on it. any micro bubbles hitting the display?
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have skimmer,and heaters in first then baffles into return pump section and fuge in last section flowing back to return,fed with 25% from DT.Simple and effective.
Kind of new to this, please explain DT
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have skimmer,and heaters in first then baffles into return pump section and fuge in last section flowing back to return,fed with 25% from DT.Simple and effective.
figured it out, do you want skimmed, unfiltered water going to your refuge.
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i don't know why you need that kind of pump at all. i would put a ball valve on it and choke it down until i was satisfied. you don't need 2500 gph through the sump if all you have in there are some heaters and a skimmer that has a 500gph pump on it. any micro bubbles hitting the display?
I guess what I am trying to do is to use the return pumps to create more water movement in my display tank. By doing this I won't need to clutter up the D.T with power heads or wave makers
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no matter where the skimmer is, it's not going to take everything out of the water before it passes. you could have it hanging on the tank, in the sump, or completely external and it (and the refugium) will still work. you are giving the skimmer too much credit.
think of this- if the skimmer worked that well, why would we even need macros?

as for flow, i would look into vortechs if you want a clean DT (display tank), but you aren't going to be able to achieve adequate flow with a return pump. you are better off saving that pump for use in a closed loop, and buy something smaller for the return. maybe even return that pump and get something larger for a CL. i used a reeflo barracuda (4300gph) for my 195 gallon DT.
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