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Old 08-14-2012, 10:24 PM   #21
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Whew!! Glad you replied to that schism because I was about to toss the reef idea out the door and I only have 56 gallons!

When quoted $5,000.00, are we talking the full deal (equipment, tank full of beautiful corals, live rock, fish)? I don't doubt that eventually the cost would add up to that much but upfront, that's a good bit.
Up front its a lot less that's why I said a nearly finished reef will be around 40-50 dollars a gallon for a nice to high end setup. It really starts to add up when getting corals, reactors, and other extras to make your life easier.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:22 AM   #22
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Up front its a lot less that's why I said a nearly finished reef will be around 40-50 dollars a gallon for a nice to high end setup. It really starts to add up when getting corals, reactors, and other extras to make your life easier.
Spending thousands is not hard at all. Lighting, filtration and flow are usually what makes a reef more expensive than a FOWLER.

Here is my setup with rough prices.

29g tank $100
Skimmer $170
Lighting $400
Flow $230
Controller $270
Live rock $250
Reactor $60
ATO switch $30
Heater $30
Stand/canopy $200
Sand $40
RoDi unit $120

Livestock well over $500

So for just a 29g tank thats nearly 2.5k and thats not including old equipment that got replaced with upgrades. Also does not include shipping fees which was required for a lot of it.

When you add in all the other little things like food, salt, buckets, test kits, hoses etc its probably closer to 3k.

Hurts to think about but in reality it could be much less or much more depending on what your trying to achieve and how easy you want your life to be maintaining the tank.

Personally i rather spend big money on the right stuff than have to replace something less than a year later because it was not right for the job.

Yearly operation costs of my tank run around $500 are guestimated when factoring in salt, water, food, bulbs, carbon, GFO, kalk, ro filters, electricity and AC. $500 is probably on the lower side actually when you factor in all the itty bitty things.

Hope that helps you get an idea of what your getting into exactly and what you might want.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:24 AM   #23
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Spending thousands is not hard at all. Lighting, filtration and flow are usually what makes a reef more expensive than a FOWLER.

Here is my setup with rough prices.

29g tank $100
Skimmer $170
Lighting $400
Flow $230
Controller $270
Live rock $250
Reactor $60
ATO switch $30
Heater $30
Stand/canopy $200
Sand $40
RoDi unit $120

Livestock well over $500

So for just a 29g tank thats nearly 2.5k and thats not including old equipment that got replaced with upgrades. Also does not include shipping fees which was required for a lot of it.

When you add in all the other little things like food, salt, buckets, test kits, hoses etc its probably closer to 3k.

Hurts to think about but in reality it could be much less or much more depending on what your trying to achieve and how easy you want your life to be maintaining the tank.

Personally i rather spend big money on the right stuff than have to replace something less than a year later because it was not right for the job.

Yearly operation costs of my tank run around $500 are guestimated when factoring in salt, water, food, bulbs, carbon, GFO, kalk, ro filters, electricity and AC. $500 is probably on the lower side actually when you factor in all the itty bitty things.

Hope that helps you get an idea of what your getting into exactly and what you might want.
I don't even wanna make a list knowing that I'm guessing $3500 lol
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:25 AM   #24
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I don't even wanna make a list knowing that I'm guessing $3500 lol
Yeah i know, my chest is hurting after that...
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Something else to consider is if you want to get started start off as a fowlr but keep only reef safe fish. Then as time goes on add a skimmer one paycheque, lights the next kinda thing. Investment will be the same but spread it out so it's easier on the pocket book. For a fowlr all you really need is rock and a powerhead, though I would suggest getting a RODI water system up front as it will save alot of headache with algae issues.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:18 AM   #26
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Ok so how would this be:

MArineland aquarium = $332.49 93 Gallon Cube : Incredible Aquarium

Super Reef Octopus = $499 Super Reef Octopus 8Ē Full Cone Skimmer In Sump [SROXP2000INT] - $499.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Koralia Evolution 1400 Circulation x 2 = $59 x 2 = $118 Koralia Evolution 1400 Circulation Pump [korEvo1400] - $59.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Reeflo Blowhole Pump x 2 = $174.99 x 2 = $349.98



Wavebox 6206 = $349.99 Wavebox Nano 6206 [6206.000] - $349.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Blueline titanium Heater = $49.99 BlueLine Titanium Heater 500w [AMBT5] - $49.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Blueline Temperature Controller = $69.99 BlueLine Temperature Controller [AMBTC] - $69.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Lighting I have no idea about lighting or canopy! Tank will be Marineland Cube 30x30x24...NEED HELP HERE!

PuraTek Deluxe 100 RO/DI Unit = $319.99 PuraTek DELUXE 100 by Vertex 100GPD [VT-RO-DX100] - $319.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Apex controller by neptune = $509.99 Apex Controller System by Neptune Systems [apexsystem] - $509.99 : Incredible Aquarium

live rock = $9.99lb x 50 = $500 Premium Indonesian Liverock Per/lb. InStock [indoliverock] - $9.99 : Incredible Aquarium

live rock cheaper different kind = $4.99lb x 40lbs = $199.60 Liverock InStock [liverock] - $4.99 : Incredible Aquarium

aragonite sand 30lbs x $28.99 x 3 = $86.70 30 lbs. Sugar Size Aragonite Sand [regooliticsa] - $28.99 : Incredible Aquarium

Total $3385.72 x 13% tax = $3825.86

Mind you this is without trying to get sale items but am I on right track? Anything I should not get? Potential savings by choosing different items? Did I miss something?

Another store nearby to me would be bigalspets.ca if you guys see products just as good for cheaper price. I would like to keep this between $2000-$2500 if possible.

Thanks all
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Don't forget to look at Craigslist and the local reef club. Here's my break down, not including livestock:

75 Gallon tank and Stand - $300 (Craigslist)
75 Pounds live rock + 75 pounds sand - $200 (reef club)
Lights (6 bulb T5 HO) - $350 (That Pet Place scratch & dent)
Sump - $180 (That Pet Place scratch & dent)
Return pumps - $50 (one from local reef club & one from Petco clearance)
Circulation pumps - $100 (Drs. Foster & Smith/ Ebay)
Overflow boxes - $70 (one from Craigslist and another from That Pet Place clearance)
Plumbing parts - $50 (Home Depot)
Reactor - $50 (reef club)
Protein Skimmer (Aqua C 120) - $100 (Craigslist)
Heater - $30 (LFS)
Refractometer - $25 (Bulk Reef Supply)
RODI - $150 (Pure Water Club)
Test kits - $50 (LFS)
Auto Top Off - $50 (Bulk Reef Supply)
Pump for ATO -$17 (That Pet Place)

TOTAL - $1772

I've learned to look for bargains, and I bet I could have knocked another $100 off if I was more patient on the tank and stand.

I actually started without the reactor and the auto top off.

This hobby is expensive, without a doubt.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:50 AM   #28
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Don't forget to look at Craigslist and the local reef club. Here's my break down, not including livestock:

75 Gallon tank and Stand - $300 (Craigslist)
75 Pounds live rock + 75 pounds sand - $200 (reef club)
Lights (6 bulb T5 HO) - $350 (That Pet Place scratch & dent)
Sump - $180 (That Pet Place scratch & dent)
Return pumps - $50 (one from local reef club & one from Petco clearance)
Circulation pumps - $100 (Drs. Foster & Smith/ Ebay)
Overflow boxes - $70 (one from Craigslist and another from That Pet Place clearance)
Plumbing parts - $50 (Home Depot)
Reactor - $50 (reef club)
Protein Skimmer (Aqua C 120) - $100 (Craigslist)
Heater - $30 (LFS)
Refractometer - $25 (Bulk Reef Supply)
RODI - $150 (Pure Water Club)
Test kits - $50 (LFS)
Auto Top Off - $50 (Bulk Reef Supply)
Pump for ATO -$17 (That Pet Place)

TOTAL - $1772

I've learned to look for bargains, and I bet I could have knocked another $100 off if I was more patient on the tank and stand.

I actually started without the reactor and the auto top off.

This hobby is expensive, without a doubt.
I don't see a livestock list..bet that would add a few hundred
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With that size of an aquarium, you may want to go with two heaters. See what others have to say though. I'm no expert.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:07 PM   #30
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I set up a 90 gallon for much less then that and I have since then upgraded to a 150 with no extra equipment you will not need heaters if you are using MH and you still prolly won't need them unless your house gets like 60 at night pumps typically add enough heat to keep it at the right temp deff doesn't cost that much plus it doesn't need the key to a good tank is time so no sence in buying equipment you don't need right away

Also the use of RO is kinda over rated unless you are on well water or have terrible tap water but I would suggest u test your tap water I have ran mu reef for over 2 years on tap
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