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Old 08-15-2012, 02:51 PM   #31
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Something else to consider is if you want to get started start off as a fowlr but keep only reef safe fish. Then as time goes on add a skimmer one paycheque, lights the next kinda thing. Investment will be the same but spread it out so it's easier on the pocket book. For a fowlr all you really need is rock and a powerhead, though I would suggest getting a RODI water system up front as it will save alot of headache with algae issues.
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Yeah i know, my chest is hurting after that...
I think what I am struggling with is purchasing the right equipment...there is so much stuff and so many different brands. Do not want to buy something that will either not do the job or break within a year. I want to buy reliable stuff(brands) but not break the bank either...if possible. Maybe if someone can look over what I listed or even provide good brands to keep an eye on for each piece of equipment that I can snap up over the next year. The new house will not be ready until next summer but if I can retrofit a specific area knowing what I want to do I will.

Should I be going live rock, sand, fish only maybe for 6-12 months first then worry about coral and such...then I could look for equipment while I am keeping live rock and fish only? What would I need for this type of setup?
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:57 PM   #32
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That would be a great idea that way you won't need to buy a super high out out light
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:30 PM   #33
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I had an idea? What if I were to change my 15 gallon fresh into a reef? Is that possible? Would biological matter from freshwater carry over to saltwater build? I have fluval C3 hang on back right know...would I still be able to use it plus buy a power head and live rock?

Or would everything be toast in the switcher over?

Thinking maybe if I start small for the next year then when move I could use everything in 15 gallon to seed 93 gallon...good/bad?
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:33 PM   #34
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It will save you a lot of money but that is a small body of water for corals so you'll have to be more on top of maintenance and top offs. It's definitely nice to have an existing tank to seed a larger tank with too and by then you'll have plenty of time to research before dropping serious money. If it were me though as I bet many will agree go as big as you can for your first SW. Going fowlr then switching to a reef slowly will also really spread out the cost of it to make it less noticeable on the wallet
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Oh ya and all your BB will die during the switch so you have to start over.
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i figured everything would die.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:47 AM   #37
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That's what I did I had a small protien skimmer and tank given to me alone with very basic salt water basics like salt a hydrometer and a rock(I mean a single rock) I just mixed some water after I bought a bag of sand and got some dry rock out of my buddies tank and ended up buy a pc light and it did well for a long time and pretty well every thing that I had in that tank i
Still have after up grading from a 10 to a 90 to a 150
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:14 PM   #38
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OK after a lot of reading in various forums and based on various suggestions I think I will convert my 15 gallon freshwater into a FOWLR to start and slowly turn it into a nano reef over the next year in the anticipation that I will get the hang of things and be able use this 15 gallon to seed my future large tank.

So I have 1 year to work on my 15 gallon and get it right. From what I have been reading on nano reef tanks...no skimmer is required and I can use my current HOB filter just not the filter pad itself, but still use for carbon. I have a Fluval C3, 75W heater and the tank itself currently. I have the following questions however:

1) What do I do with the hood? Mine came with the tank it is traditional cover with flip top and light...do i ditch this? What cover/light do I buy to start the FOWLR tank?

2) My reading suggests I need 2 powerheads at opposite ends of the tank...do I put them diagnol towards one another? Poin then at each other or direct them towards the glass? How would 2 Koralia Nano Reef circulation pumps at 425GPH do or should I go with 2 Koralia Evolution 750 pumps at 750GPH...or one of each?

3) I will be using Live rock so about 15-17 pounds ok?

4) sand i was thinking Carib Sea Aragamax "SELECT "Sugar Sized Sand...thoughts?

5) What lighting will I need to keep soft corals 6-8 months from now if tank is ready and stable?

Did I miss anything?

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I used a 4 in 1 coralight power compact and I had a carpet anemone and a brain coral I would still use a protien skimmer and try and get a what seems like an over kill canister filter if u really plan on going reef
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+1 on still running a skimmer. If your doing a fowlr to start you can keep your hood and lighting but will want to upgrade when you go reef. I would suggest LEDs, get one unit when the time comes then when you do your larger tank you just need to get one more. As far as powerheads go for fowlr you would only need 150-200gph of flow but more is better. If it was me I would shoot for two 250 gph powerheads that way you don't need to upgrade when you go reef. A larger tank will require more flow so you will likely have to get larger powerheads when you upgrade tanks but the smaller ones can still be used for added flow and eliminating dead spots. Personally I would run a canister over a HOB but the main purpose of a filter on a marine tank is to filter out particulate such as poop and excess food. If you have a hob just use that no sense buying a canister. An important thing to remember is that the filter needs to be cleaned during every water change. A skimmer teamed up with a filter should result in pretty good water conditions. Another thing to note is if your getting live rock keep it wet, take a couple 5g buckets so you can keep the rock submerged and this should incredibly reduce if not eliminate the cycle. Another very important thing to buy is a test kit. Alot of people don't like them but start with an API saltwater master test kit, it's a good introductory test kit that will get you started. You will likely want to do more tests down the road and that's where having the reef test kit comes handy. Then you can just get the single test kits for other trace elements.
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