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Old 09-25-2003, 12:23 PM   #1
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Wow! a mandarin

I was at the local Petco near my work with a co-worker (he just started the whole fishkeeping thing), helping him pick out a good fish to start with and what do you think I see? A green mandarin in a tank, I have been back a few times in the last 3-4 weeks and it is still there. So i asked one of the girls at the store what they feed him, her reply was bloodworms and brine shrimp. Does that seem right? How long does it take a fish to starve? If they have had it for a month, then they must be able to feed it? TIA
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Ask the store assocate when they feed the fish and ask if you came by at that time if you could watch them feed this particular fish. Then you can observe to make sure the fish is or is not taking the foods.
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I am not looking to purchase this fish or I would (tank just finishing cycling). Was more curious as to how long it would take a fish to starve to death. They have no LR at this store so, the mandarin would have to be eating for it to have been there this long? Just trying to "bank" away some more knowledge that I may use in the future when I am ready to buy some livestock.
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I think it could possibly live for more than a month ... but with no LR or DSB, I'd guess maybe 3-4 months at the very most. That is, of course, if it is not accepting prepared food. Some mandarins (few) do, but even then, they need live food to thrive long-term.
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The smaller the fish the quicker it will succumb to starvation, most fish can last a month or so, some more. After about 2-3 weeks with no food, permanant damage is done to the gut and intestines.
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For what it is worth, this mandarin was about an inch to an inch and a half, so real small. Am now seriously considering this fish to buy, after 4 weeks in QT tank, he would be ready about the same time I think the tank would be ready.
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how much $. Just curious?
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Would have to check to be sure, but was thinking it was like 18.49 or some such thing. No idea if that is high/low ?
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I would seriously consider either allowing the tank to mature more and get a thriving pod population started, or add a fishless refugium. A newly cycled and stable aquarium just won't have the population available to handle the constant feeding of this species.

I would also do as recommended and demand that you see the fish eat first. My LFS swore that my leaf fish ate mollies when I purchased it, and this could not have been further from the truth.

If it does eat, I would quickly attempt to vary its diet to something other than brine. It isn't very nutritious, chopped up mysis and zooplankton would be much better.

Decide on what is best for the fish in your own good judgement, if you don't get it now there will be others.
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hoops-i have a lot of pods and a sump with rock and ls,right now my lfs has a green mandarin that he is holding for me and seeing if he can get him to eat other things..if it works out that this fish will accept other food do you think in a 75 if i switch rocks in and out of the sump that i will beable to keep enough of a pod population to have him stay healthy? am a little worried because i have heard they hunt pods day and night do not want him to starve...please any opinions welcome.
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