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Old 05-21-2008, 11:58 PM   #31
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You are correct. The SE lamps have an outer glass that will serve as the screen.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:34 AM   #33
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We're talking about ballasts/retros Scott, not bulbs.
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I found this this morning (yes,I'm working hard today).

Aquatic Lighting Systems, offering metal halide, halide lighting, ballasts and halide bulbs, and retrofit kits. Come see us for your entire aquarium and other aquatic lighting needs.

Good price (even though bulb is crap). I dunno anything about ballasts though. Thoughts?
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:46 PM   #35
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After about six months now, hind sight... I would have gotten all my rock at the same time. I bought a little here and there from 4 different FS, due to finances. What I did learn from that mistake other than do it all at once is that not all LR is created equal. The best rock I got was called Florida aquacultured. It had the coolest hitchhikers. I know the risk of bad hitchhikers is greater with this rock but I got lucky and did not have any bad ones. But the good squirts, mussles, sponges, worms and corals that came with it are TERRIFIC!!! I wish I could get rid of the other rock I purchased and buy all Florida aquacultured. I have a thumb size orange sea squirt beautiful orange and yellow and chicken liver sponges. I have lots of good macro algae too like Halimedia (sp?) and others. It is beautiful and my tank looks mature beyond its age. That is my only recommendation Have fun
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Thanks for the info LL. I do plan to get it all at once. Where did you get your LR from?
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I am not sure if he is talking about the aquacultured rock from Tampa Bay Saltwater. I've seen pics of this stuff and a video about how they culture it and it truly looks like amazing rock. Shipping was an issue for me though, and I got all my rock locally.
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I am not sure if he is talking about the aquacultured rock from Tampa Bay Saltwater. I've seen pics of this stuff and a video about how they culture it and it truly looks like amazing rock. Shipping was an issue for me though, and I got all my rock locally.
Shipping is a bear because TBS's aqua-cultured live rock is shipped in water, so there's minimal die-off in transit. Most of the shipping cost is the weight; all the rock submerged in sea water.
I use the aqua-cultured live rock from Tampa Bay Saltwater because I endeavor to use as much aqua and mari-cultured items in my aquariums as I can, for obvious reasons. And that makes the rock worth the cost to me.

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Yes that is the stuff. I got mine at a pet store in fort collins co. but I know it is the tampa bay saltwater stuff. I actually ordered some more straight from their web site the other day. Shipping was not that bad. I payed 60 bucks for 25# of rock and a bunch of other things, snails and I just ordered my first star fish from them and a couple more hermit crabs. You have to go to the airport to pick it up but to me that was not that big of a deal because our airport is small. The shipping was cheaper than the cost of gas to drive to fort collins. I will let you know how it looks when it gets here. I loved it in the FS because I picked ones with way cool squirts and sponges and everything is still doing well. I figured I would loose some of that stuff because my tank was still new. They are all still alive and well. I have see the video you are talking about. Fast forward through the boring stuff and the rock it shows is just what I got only I think mine may have been better. More orange and yellow and macro algae. The cost of the rock is only $5.00 a pound so the shipping does not hurt so bad. Check them out. I am a little worried about the distance mine has to come. I made arrangements to not have them send it until next week.
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I found this this morning (yes,I'm working hard today).

Aquatic Lighting Systems, offering metal halide, halide lighting, ballasts and halide bulbs, and retrofit kits. Come see us for your entire aquarium and other aquatic lighting needs.

Good price (even though bulb is crap). I dunno anything about ballasts though. Thoughts?
I bought the same ballast on Ebay, brand new, for $40 shipped. It's a good magnetic ballast. Check out BallastWise for electronic MH ballasts. You can get 1 from there for about $60. There prices are great. I bought my electronic VHO ballast from there.
A mogul base socket from your local electrical supply will cost about $5.
They want $68 for an upgraded bulb, but they don't say what brand bulb it is. That kit doesn't include a reflector. You can get a reflector w/mogul base for $30 from HelloLights.

I tried Ebay cheapo bulbs and IMO, you get what you pay for. They are junk.

The only difference, beside the wattages, between a SE and DE bulb is the SE bulb in encased in a uv resistant sleeve. You need to have a reflector with a uv resistant sheild (glass) with a DE bulb.
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