Fishless cycle question - Aquarium Advice

Mananhammer · 01-12-2006, 12:43 AM

My girlfriend and I are very excited. We are showing some nitrites. Yay!!!!! The question is to add ammonia or not to add? That is the question. And i am looking to the experts here for the answers. My girlfriend has scoured the internet and this site but can not find the answer.

Thank you all for your help!!!!

AA Roxors my Boxors!!!!!

**Zagz** · 01-12-2006, 12:54 AM

Yes keep adding the ammonia, if the ammonia dies off the cycle will die off too. Congratulations on the beginning (middle) of your cycle!

Mananhammer · 01-12-2006, 12:57 AM

Thank you very much for the quick reply keep adding ammonia until when is now the question?

rich311k · 01-12-2006, 08:14 AM

Just add half as much as you were before showing nitrites.

bosk1 · 01-12-2006, 09:42 AM

Short answer: you want to add ammonia to about 2 [acronym:d4280407bb="Parts per Million"]ppm[/acronym:d4280407bb] every day (some may say a little higher; some a little lower). When ammonia and nitrites both get to zero within 24 hours of adding ammonia, and you've got the nitrates to prove it, you are cycled!

Mananhammer · 01-12-2006, 12:57 PM

Thank you all my girlfriend and i are a little new at this whole thing. We appreciate the help with all this thank you very much. After the ammonia and nitrites get to zero with in 24 hours we do a [acronym:5fa7a65179="Partial water change"]pwc[/acronym:5fa7a65179] right. How much 10% or so or more?

crazyred · 01-12-2006, 02:10 PM

Lots more. Most of the articles I've ever seen on fishless cycling recommend about a 80-90% water change as the nitrates will be off the charts. Whatever your case, the goal is to get the nitrates at or below 20 [acronym:7c1d580e7b="Parts per Million"]ppm[/acronym:7c1d580e7b].....10 may be preferable. Nitrates are way less toxic than ammonia or nitrites, but in high concentration are still harmful to fish. [acronym:7c1d580e7b="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:7c1d580e7b]

Mananhammer · 01-12-2006, 02:29 PM

Thank you very much. Now my girlfriend is looking at fish for her tank. She origanally wanted a betta but she is finding that the bettas are not very active. Oh well we have time and this is for another thread thank you all for the answers to the questions. You all are a wonderful help.

DepotFish · 01-12-2006, 07:50 PM

Female bettas are very active, and can be housed together. Contrary to popular belief they can be more colourful than males and can have longer tails.

Mananhammer · 01-12-2006, 09:32 PM

I think she has decided on a Dwarf puffer and a zebra Otto. She seems to like the personality of the Dwarf Puffer and she likes the looks of the zebra Otto.

01-12-2006, 12:43 AM	#1
Mananhammer Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	Fishless cycle question My girlfriend and I are very excited. We are showing some nitrites. Yay!!!!! The question is to add ammonia or not to add? That is the question. And i am looking to the experts here for the answers. My girlfriend has scoured the internet and this site but can not find the answer. Thank you all for your help!!!! AA Roxors my Boxors!!!!!

01-12-2006, 12:54 AM	#2
Zagz Aquarium Advice Addict Community Admin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 11,257 Images: 92	Yes keep adding the ammonia, if the ammonia dies off the cycle will die off too. Congratulations on the beginning (middle) of your cycle! __________________ ----------- My Profile Page My tank & fish photos. Have you voted for AA today? Like the advice or comments someone gave you? Show your appreciation with the reputation button!

01-12-2006, 09:42 AM	#5
bosk1 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 693	Short answer: you want to add ammonia to about 2 [acronym:d4280407bb="Parts per Million"]ppm[/acronym:d4280407bb] every day (some may say a little higher; some a little lower). When ammonia and nitrites both get to zero within 24 hours of adding ammonia, and you've got the nitrates to prove it, you are cycled! __________________ http://dreamtheaterforums.org/forum/index.php

01-12-2006, 02:10 PM	#7
crazyred Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Harlingen, Texas Posts: 1,179 Images: 1	Lots more. Most of the articles I've ever seen on fishless cycling recommend about a 80-90% water change as the nitrates will be off the charts. Whatever your case, the goal is to get the nitrates at or below 20 [acronym:7c1d580e7b="Parts per Million"]ppm[/acronym:7c1d580e7b].....10 may be preferable. Nitrates are way less toxic than ammonia or nitrites, but in high concentration are still harmful to fish. [acronym:7c1d580e7b="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:7c1d580e7b] __________________ "My name is Crazy Red and I'm an Aquariumaholic." ~~Melissa~~dedicated Ram breeder~~ 55 gal.FW: 4 platies, 3 angelfish, 3 Cochu's blue tetras, 2 Rummynose tetras, 4 A. cacatuoides, 1 A. trifasciata, 2 blue rams, 6 Von Rio tetras, 1 Queen Arabesque pleco 29 Gal. FW: 2 variatus platies, 6 cherry barbs, 10 harlequin rasboras, 1 opaline gourami, 1 hillstream loach, 1 Rio Jari pleco (L-316), 1 GBR 10 Gal. FW: 1 african clawed frog, 1 dwarf flame gourami 10 Gal. FW:tons of blue ram fry (4) 2 Gal. FW: all four with male bettas

01-12-2006, 07:50 PM	#9
DepotFish Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 871 Images: 4	Female bettas are very active, and can be housed together. Contrary to popular belief they can be more colourful than males and can have longer tails. __________________ Anybody who's seen the personality of fish has had their minds and hearts opened to a whole new world.

01-12-2006, 12:57 AM	#3
Mananhammer Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	Thank you very much for the quick reply keep adding ammonia until when is now the question?

01-12-2006, 08:14 AM	#4
rich311k Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,972 Images: 35	Just add half as much as you were before showing nitrites.

01-12-2006, 12:57 PM	#6
Mananhammer Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	Thank you all my girlfriend and i are a little new at this whole thing. We appreciate the help with all this thank you very much. After the ammonia and nitrites get to zero with in 24 hours we do a [acronym:5fa7a65179="Partial water change"]pwc[/acronym:5fa7a65179] right. How much 10% or so or more?

01-12-2006, 02:29 PM	#8
Mananhammer Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	Thank you very much. Now my girlfriend is looking at fish for her tank. She origanally wanted a betta but she is finding that the bettas are not very active. Oh well we have time and this is for another thread thank you all for the answers to the questions. You all are a wonderful help.

01-12-2006, 09:32 PM	#10
Mananhammer Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 37	I think she has decided on a Dwarf puffer and a zebra Otto. She seems to like the personality of the Dwarf Puffer and she likes the looks of the zebra Otto.

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