Help with Apple Snails - Aquarium Advice

caribou · 05-31-2005, 04:09 PM

I had a couple of apple snails in my tank a few months ago. They seemed to be doing really well and were pretty active wtih the lights on. I lost them when I had to move them to a spare tank when I had to treat ich. The heater in the smaller 10 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] went waco and the snails were dead one morning. My main tank (90 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2].) has since been cured of ich. I used a copper type product but have done many [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Partial water change"]PWC[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] and added charcoal to my filter to remove any remaining meds. My replacement snails don't last more than two days. My fish are thriving and healthy (angels, clown loaches, one pleco, two gouramis, platies). Any ideas? Water params are Ph 7.5 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="General Hardness"]GH[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] 10 Ammonia-0. I [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Reverse osmosis"]RO[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] water with tap to keep my nitrates down.

Blazeherd2306 · 05-31-2005, 04:13 PM

When you find them dead are their shells empty. The only thing I can think of are the clown loaches. I know they love pond snails, so maybe they eat apple snails?

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krap101 · 05-31-2005, 04:15 PM

well when one of my snails died the only thing that was in the tank was a goldifsh and a dojo loach. and i didnt see them pulling them out

Blazeherd2306 · 05-31-2005, 04:40 PM

Here's a link: http://www.applesnail.net/

In the ecology section, it gives a list of apple snail predators and clown loaches are one of them.

caribou · 05-31-2005, 04:47 PM

I don't think the clown loaches are the problem, the snails are in their shells but are open and unresponsive (dead). The snails are also rather large, about the size of a quarter. Is it possible that some of the copper meds could be retained in my drift wood? I know that they are sensistive to both copper and salt. The snails came with a 30 day gaurantee so I can get replacements, but I'd like to figure out whats causing the problem.

Blazeherd2306 · 05-31-2005, 04:57 PM

Other than clown loaches, the only problem can be copper. I know that there are test kits for copper, etc, etc. It might be a good idea to purchase one.

[acronym:e3cf13ba13="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:e3cf13ba13]

Blazeherd2306 · 05-31-2005, 04:58 PM

Here's a link

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1

slowboattochina · 05-31-2005, 07:59 PM

Have you scrubbed ornaments, plastic plants or rocks and driftwood, as meds will sometimes stick to these. It is always good idea to do this after using meds. [acronym:5115947375="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:5115947375]

05-31-2005, 04:09 PM	#1
caribou Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: nebraska Posts: 214	Help with Apple Snails I had a couple of apple snails in my tank a few months ago. They seemed to be doing really well and were pretty active wtih the lights on. I lost them when I had to move them to a spare tank when I had to treat ich. The heater in the smaller 10 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] went waco and the snails were dead one morning. My main tank (90 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2].) has since been cured of ich. I used a copper type product but have done many [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Partial water change"]PWC[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] and added charcoal to my filter to remove any remaining meds. My replacement snails don't last more than two days. My fish are thriving and healthy (angels, clown loaches, one pleco, two gouramis, platies). Any ideas? Water params are Ph 7.5 [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="General Hardness"]GH[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] 10 Ammonia-0. I [acronym:8ba9fe59a2="Reverse osmosis"]RO[/acronym:8ba9fe59a2] water with tap to keep my nitrates down.

05-31-2005, 04:15 PM	#3
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	well when one of my snails died the only thing that was in the tank was a goldifsh and a dojo loach. and i didnt see them pulling them out __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

05-31-2005, 04:47 PM	#5
caribou Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: nebraska Posts: 214	I don't think the clown loaches are the problem, the snails are in their shells but are open and unresponsive (dead). The snails are also rather large, about the size of a quarter. Is it possible that some of the copper meds could be retained in my drift wood? I know that they are sensistive to both copper and salt. The snails came with a 30 day gaurantee so I can get replacements, but I'd like to figure out whats causing the problem. __________________ 90 [acronym:e9dadb358f="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:e9dadb358f] planted, [acronym:e9dadb358f="Carbon dioxide"]CO2[/acronym:e9dadb358f], angels, neons, GN Plecos, GB Rams, Corys,Clown Loaches 90 planted, under construction, [acronym:e9dadb358f="Carbon dioxide"]CO2[/acronym:e9dadb358f] 2.9 [acronym:e9dadb358f="Watts Per Gallon"]wpg[/acronym:e9dadb358f]

05-31-2005, 07:59 PM	#8
slowboattochina Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York Pennsylvania Posts: 240 Images: 4	Have you scrubbed ornaments, plastic plants or rocks and driftwood, as meds will sometimes stick to these. It is always good idea to do this after using meds. [acronym:5115947375="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:5115947375] __________________ If I'm so slow , why am I allways in the front?

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05-31-2005, 04:13 PM	#2
Blazeherd2306 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,723 Images: 5	When you find them dead are their shells empty. The only thing I can think of are the clown loaches. I know they love pond snails, so maybe they eat apple snails? [acronym:5f6cc5170a="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:5f6cc5170a]

05-31-2005, 04:40 PM	#4
Blazeherd2306 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,723 Images: 5	Here's a link: http://www.applesnail.net/ In the ecology section, it gives a list of apple snail predators and clown loaches are one of them.

05-31-2005, 04:57 PM	#6
Blazeherd2306 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,723 Images: 5	Other than clown loaches, the only problem can be copper. I know that there are test kits for copper, etc, etc. It might be a good idea to purchase one. [acronym:e3cf13ba13="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:e3cf13ba13]

05-31-2005, 04:58 PM	#7
Blazeherd2306 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,723 Images: 5	Here's a link http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1

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