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No. The bacteria live on surfaces, not in the water column.
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Nope, the bacteria you're trying to grow attach themselves to surfaces very well. All you're doing is keeping the nutrients from reaching toxic levels.
I wouldn't pull out the gravel vacuum or start scrubbing down the ornaments and tank walls though. |
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man i just wanted to say thank you to all who have helped. I am normally a quitter when things get complicated, but i really love beautiful aquariums. i have no intentions of giving up, due to the fact i have the best support ever, i am hoplessly addicted to this site. YOU ALL ARE TRULY AWESOME PEOPLE!!! Thank yall so much for the help now and in the times to come. This web site just proves there are decent people out there who just want to help, and enjoy what god created, beautiful peacock cichlids.
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Water changes should not prolong the cycle. You have got to get your nitrite down. Nitrite is a killer. The good news is, you should be nearing the end of your cycle. Once the ammonia and nitrite levels are down to 0, you can add fish. But do not add 10 at once. 1 or 2 at a time only.
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I had a problem like this as well LONG AGO. I bought something called "Ammo Lock" (or along those lines.) It stablized the ammonia, then the next day it spiked like crazy. My fish were gasping at the top for air. Luckily my neighbor was also a fish keeper, and had enough water to replenish my tank from his holding tank. I ran a hose from his 2nd floor window to my 1st floor window and syphined the water down, from there on out my problem was solved. I never used Ammo Lock again. I'm not sure what exactly the thing is used for, but I had a bad expierence with it. I was also new to the hobby and over stocked my tank, and didn't let it cycle, since setting up new larger tanks I realized what a mistake not cycling a tank is. This is just my expirence though with a water conditioner, I thought it was a miracle cure and I was wrong and nearly avoided a disaster.
But, yeah PWC are your best way to go for now, but its going to be a pain in the butt, unless you have a python. Wish I knew about it when I had this problem myself. |
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Don't feel bad, nicholas. When I first started with fish over 20 years ago, I came home with the aquarium AND the fish the same day!
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ok, so heres where i am at now. i replaced my older filter with a marineland emporer 400. this filter is awesome and cleared my water almost immediatley. my water was crystal clear. i now have done some water testing over two days and my ammonia is maxed out on the api droplet test. i then did another 50% water change the same day. i gave it one night and tested next morning to find i am still maxed out on ammonia. my cousin sayes im not patient enough, but i am just curiouse what else may cause the problem other than the cycle. my tank has set for 10 days and ammonia is getting worse. i suspected the rock decor i have put in may have something to do with this. i went to my local rock yard and bought several slabs of rock. my cousin said to boil the rock, i have not done so but i have pulled all from my tank and boiled and rinsed all gravel in my tank. i also did a 100% water change only treating with de-chlorinator. i have also began cycling a 10 gallon for future fish to come, kinda as a holding tank.
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Remember that ammonia is the fuel for the cycle. The cycle does not create ammonia. It's a good idea to keep the ammonia level at about 4ppm during the cycle, and if it goes over that, daily PWC's (or more often) may be needed. The ammonia is caused by rotting stuff in the tank. It could be old fish waste or old food. Hard to tell, but do what you have to to keep the ammonia down while the cycle happens. Turn up the heat and crank up the air pump(s) to encourage bacteria growth. Be patient and expect about 3-4 weeks for the cycle to complete.
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See everyone says just to wait until the cycle is done and stuff. That's just to be safe. See after like 4-5 days I dropped 4 cories in there. Then I dropped around 15-20 molly fry that are around 1in or small in there. Took them out and put my 2 gold gourmis, chinesse algae eater, my dwarf cichlid. And a recently added 2 killi fish too. But one got killed by one of the other fish. But what I am saying is, people wait like a month or 2 before they even start putting stuff in there aquarium, none of my fished died within those 2 weeks of changing them back and forth. So yes 1 day after is problly a bad idea, but after like a week or so you should most likely be set to go.
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