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Old 01-03-2007, 09:49 AM   #1
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my daughter received a 2.5 gallon tank for xmas...



the good intentioned gift was stocked already with two feeder goldfish and two african dwarf frogs... i don't know what kind of prep was done with the tank. i suspect the inhabitants were dumped in there a few days before the gift was given.

since the 25th, both fish have gone on to the great toilet bowl, and one poor frog has been sucked into the filter, which was originaly set on the highest level.

not really sure where to go from here... i don't know how long the other froggie will last, and i am certian the tank is nowhere near where it should be in terms of water chemistry. i dont want to add any other living creatures untill i can reset the tank and get it cycled properly, but i have the issue of the remaining frog.

my thoughts on this tank is that it is pretty poor, even for a starter setup, and that i should leave froggie in there and get a ten gallon glass tank and get it cycled and ready to house some other fish and frogs later on down the road.

if froggie doesn't make it, is this gift tank set up worth doing right, or should i just move her on to a better suited tank?
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:03 AM   #2
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You could always set it up with a couple low light plants (or medium if you put it near a window), and a male guppy or two. I wouldn't toss it, there's always possibilities.

Or, as mentioned somewhere before, you could make it an invert tank. Put some snails and/or shrimp in there.
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Welcome to AA!!! A larger tank is easier to start with. The more water the easier it is to maintain good water quality. I am sure you are right the tank was never cycled. I have no experience with that tank but it is kind of small for most fish.

If you have the room I would suggest a 29 gallon tank. Most stores have deals on the them and it would give you a lot more options than a ten would.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:49 AM   #4
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Also you can normally pick up tanks on craigslist on the cheap. I just got a 33g and a 55g for 200 dollars including the stands.

I second Rich on the larger tank. They are much easier to start with and maintain. Would make your critters much happier.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:58 AM   #5
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Depends on what you're doing this for. Since the tank was for your daughter, are you going to buy her a larger tank?

I agree the larger tank is much better. I bought my daughter an Eclipse 12 a while back and let her keep it in her room, and we had very much success with that tank, and she was able to keep more and a larger selection of fish, compared to what you'll be able to do with the 2.5g.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:41 PM   #6
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Small tanks can always make a nice addition to a room. Although you can not keep large or many fish in there, there are possibilities. Sean Murphy mentioned a great possibility. I would throw some hardy plants in there, which will aid in biological filtration. As to what plants, you'll have to ask someone else, as I am not an expert in that dept. There are a couple small fish that are a good possibility for the tank. Neons, white clouds, guppies....2-3 of these fish should be fine. What do you mean by "got sucked up in the filter"? Is there a grate on the end of the intake tube? If not, I would def get something to put on there so no more living things get sucked up. If you do not have some type of grate on the end of the intake tube and cannot find one that fits, get some sponge that is aquarium safe and stick it on the end of the tube. Also a ghost shrimp would be a nice addition. They help eat leftover crap on the bottom and they're interesting to watch. (Cheap too!) HTH
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:54 PM   #7
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What about a beta and a shrimp?? That's what fish my daughter started on, and they seem to get attached to their owners!! Great personalities!! Rich311k is definately right on the target with larger tanks being easier, lot's more possibilities with a largr tank!! Welcome!!
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:02 PM   #8
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Wonder if its a dwarf frog or a clawed frog. Clawed frogs get hugh, softball sized. Hopefully its a dwarf. I'd put something over the filter intake and get either a guppy or snail as a froggie friend and keep the tank setup. Its a cute tank even though you can't do much with it and they certainly do brighten up a room. Tiny tanks are pretty easy maintenence after they cycle. Just take a turkey baster to suck up the gravel and change the water.
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:36 PM   #9
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thanks for the replys...

i hate to scrap this little tank, cause it's there, but i have access to other ten gallon tanks from my brother's lizard/frog/snake keeping. if i get on of those tanks, it will be for my daughter.

honestly, i have no desire to get another huge aquarium project started (i haven't had a tank set up in well over 15 years) but she is really excited about having fish around, and it's a good hobby/learning experience for her.

any advice on plants? i saw bamboo in tanks at the store, looked pretty neat..

i am a big fan of the guppies and plecos so will prolly add a guppy or two for her.

but...

should i let this tank cycle now as is? there's plenty of fish feces and extra food lying around, or should i start fresh/empty it???

also i think the filter is pretty much crap, and needs replaced. it is a tetra whisper ten, that sits in the water... there is a grate over it, but the froggies are so small, their limbs will fit in there.. the poor guy had his leg caught in it, and drowned. i don't know if he was sick, tangling with the gold fish(i watched them compete for space and food) or just in the wrong place at the wrong time. the other frog seems fine for the moment.
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I don't know much about frogs...but assuming they'd be similar to fish for cycling...sounds like you've already got a "fishy" ("froggie?") cycle going. I'd keep up with water changes to keep the ammonia and nitrites low and not change the filter until after it's cycled (even then I'd run both for a bit before getting rid of the frog eating one until the new one gets colonized). As for plants, "bamboo's" not a true aquatic, so doesn't grow well underwater and may rot. Java fern, moss and anubias species can do ok in low light.
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