My fish keep dyeing!!!!

[Mahoney]

I don't think he has tested the water

I tested it last night when I got home and today when I woke up and both times the color was either a .50 or .25 it was hard to pick one of the other cause it didn't really match either one but was close to both

 

[ilostnemo]

I thought Corsair just said he posted them at .25-.50. Regardless, I'd still like to hear what they are currently directly from the OP. If the ammonia was previously high enough to be killing off all the other fish...it's possible the residual ammonia (even after the pwc's) is still through the roof.

+1 gotta agree with that one

 

[Mahoney]

people are being mean because you didnt listen to advice and are harming the fish.

I listened to the advice and did everything they said except o bought two fish the I researched would go in my tank and I didn't want the betta to think the whole tank was his territory while i was cycling the tank and I didn't want to put him in a tiny betta bowl while I cycled it

 

[alex07]

<img src="http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51619"/>

This is the kit I got the didn't have the big kit that everyone was talking bout they only had that one and a ph test kit. And yes the levels are correct.

And an update on the goldfish tank my brother bought a fish that gave all the fish ich and all but two goldfish and one loach died before we could get the medication they needed. We did a water change everyday but that wasn't enough

You need to test for nitrites & nitrates as well

 

[ilostnemo]

I listened to the advice and did everything they said except o bought two fish the I researched would go in my tank and I didn't want the betta to think the whole tank was his territory while i was cycling the tank and I didn't want to put him in a tiny betta bowl while I cycled it

they advised a page before you got the angels to not add anything.

 

[Mahoney]

The problem is that Angels are VERY sensitive as babies. Not a good fish to cycle with. And as far as worrying about your Betta being territorial ? Don't. I've had Bettas for over 20yrs. They are typically peaceful, except to other Bettas and sometimes Gouramis (cousins ).

There are aggressive Bettas, but I've seen mean Guppies LOL. Save your Angels, take them back before they die please.
It's not a good reason to add new fish yet.

20+ means minimum tank size. It's not realistic for Angels. They get big with tall fins. I always told people 40+ should be minimum for 2. And 50g is better cuz it's taller.

Check out YouTube Videos of adult Angels in planted tanks.

I know you are trying. It's not fun to be insulted.

I would take the angels back if the pet store was closer but I can't just go up there when I feel like it or I would prob be there everyday. But everything I had read and heard was that bettas are territorial so thats why I bought the angels if I would of know that before yesterday I wouldn't of bought any and just finished the cycle

 

[Mahoney]

You need to test for nitrites & nitrates as well

I didnt see a test kit for that or I would of got it

 

[alex07]

I didnt see a test kit for that or I would of got it

Look for a master kit

 

[sillygirl423]

people are being mean because you didnt listen to advice and are harming the fish.

And its not that we are trying to be mean we are trying to get you to understand the processes of being a good fish keeper and how to keep your current fish alive. As for the idiot part I don't know you so I can't judge that, you have made some bone-head moves (yes we all have),luckily that can be fixed if you listen. Most of the people here have been fish keepers forever.

 

[Mahoney]

Look for a master kit

They were out of the mater kit

 

[Mahoney]

And its not that we are trying to be mean we are trying to get you to understand the processes of being a good fish keeper and how to keep your current fish alive. As for the idiot part I don't know you so I can't judge that, you have made some bone-head moves (yes we all have),luckily that can be fixed if you listen. Most of the people here have been fish keepers forever.

I'm trying to fix it the best I can but I know what I have to do so I will just do what o think is best now since I can't come to here for help

 

[Coursair]

<img src="http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51618"/>

This is the only picture I could get of the algae eater its not a good one

Thank you. I believe that is a Rubber Lip Pleco. GOOD NEWS. They stay under 10" AFAIK. But check out care for them.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/_species.php?species_id=318

This gives Species name. They need a hiding spot. They need a couple of smooth rounded stones. They eat a variety of food.

 

[Mahoney]

Thank you. I believe that is a Rubber Lip Pleco. GOOD NEWS. They stay under 10" AFAIK. But check out care for them.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/_species.php?species_id=318

This gives Species name. They need a hiding spot. They need a couple of smooth rounded stones. They eat a variety of food.

That's good I noticed how he would get on one of my decorations but not the other two

 

[eco23]

There really is a lot of information flying around, and I think it's important the OP has a specific plan to follow. Here's my advice-

-Return the Angels. They're not compatible with your tank.

-Find out for certain what type of Pleco you have. If he's not compatible, return him with the Angels.

-Purchase an API Master kit. You will need to know your full parameters for any type of cycling.

-Test every day and do water changes as needed to keep toxins as low as possible

-Decide on whether you want to do a fish-in (requires commitment) or fishless cycle (easier, but there's an empty tank for a while). If fishless you'll need to temporarily remove the Betta. The guides we've linked several times cover both fish-in and fishless cycling)

-If you choose to do a fish-in cycle, here's where it gets complicated. A single Betta will not produce enough ammonia to cycle a tank. If you kept him in a 20 gallon by himself, you technically wouldn't need to cycle the tank at all. However, you're actually going to need to add a couple of fish which are COMPATIBLE with both your tank and the Betta. You'll need to stock VERY lightly, only a couple small fish, and make sure you are testing every day and doing water changes to keep your fish safe until the tank is cycled.

-Once the tank has been cycled and is stable (0 ammo, 0 no2, some no3), wait a couple weeks and add only a few more fish.

-Repeat this process very slowly over time until the tank is stocked and established.


That's really all we've got to offer, and I think that pretty much covers it. If there's any part of that you don't have an understanding of, let us know.

 

[sillygirl423]

I'm trying to fix it the best I can but I know what I have to do so I will just do what o think is best now since I can't come to here for help

Because doing "what you think is best" has worked so far right? Let me put it differently, your fish are swimming in their own poo and pee and it is burning them alive, ever had a chemical burn? Not fun, imagine that all over your body, that is why we get so upset when people don't take advice cause the only one it hurts is the fish. I'm sorry if you think you're being bullied but people have been trying to help, and doing so nicely, then you don't listen to what they say?

 

[Mahoney]

Because doing "what you think is best" has worked so far right? Let me put it differently, your fish are swimming in their own poo and pee and it is burning them alive, ever had a chemical burn? Not fun, imagine that all over your body, that is why we get so upset when people don't take advice cause the only one it hurts is the fish. I'm sorry if you think you're being bullied but people have been trying to help, and doing so nicely, then you don't listen to what they say?

I did what they said I returned my fish I bought a test kit and I thought if I left the betta in there alone that he would think je owned the whole tank so I did my research like I was told and it said that I could have angel fish in my tank and they told me I could do a fishless or fish in cycle and I decided a fish in cycle so I thought I was doing everything right

 

[sillygirl423]

I understand, hey my bf had a cycled 55g tank, we decided to add some new fish, yeah well we added 12, my lfs said it would be fine and then my tank mini-cycled! Everyday for 2-3 weeks I had to do 50-75% water changes on a 55g that's a lot of water not to mention I have a siphon and buckets to carry, I lost a beautiful guppy and my tank got ick and my fish looked horrible and miserable I would've never known anything if it wasn't for this site and its wonderful members. I know what it feels like to put fish in pain even though you don't mean to. We are trying to spare you that experience and the fish any pain. Please just listen to eco's plan. And keep us posted as soon as you get the master kit, start a new thread with your daily log that way if anything is fishy (pun intended) help will be right there.

 

[severum mama]

This thread has run its course. Advice has been given, it is now up to the OP whether he or she chooses to follow it. There is no reason to keep hounding him or her about it.