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Old 11-10-2011, 09:53 AM   #11
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That is all great info. I will take a look at the option of keeping water that is at good levels.
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Old 11-14-2011, 08:59 AM   #12
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Update, The PH crashes put a hurting on my cycle as far as i can tell, I dosed to 4ppm Ammonia and in 24 hours I get Ammonia .25 ,Nitrite .50, Nitrate 40ppm and I am still fighting to keep ph up past 6 using coral and I have to use API Ph up liquid buffer or it will drop to 6 before the 24 hours is up. Does this look like it will still turn out ok?
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So you had nitrites and they spiked and fell and now you are seeing them again? Or is this the first time you have nitrites?

I'm wondering if the liquid buffer is interfering with the coral. If the PH UP only brings the PH to 7 it may be preventing the coral from raising it further. Although admittedly I could be way off on that theory.

How much CC are you using and where is it (in your filter or tank)?
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Yes I had nitrites they spiked and then fell, now they are back but it very small amounts, as far as the coral goes I am using about a baseball size amount in the tank and I have as much as i can fit in my filter, i used just the coral at first and it was not enough to keep the ph stable when I use 4ppm ammonia. So without the PH up product my ph would hit 6 while I am dosing to 4ppm.
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Have you tried squeezing the CC to loosen it up? That can help release some of the particles and should raise the PH, at least in theory. I'm not sure how long that would last though. Have you tried the crushed argonite? It's similar to CC but can be better at buffering I think. If you're seeing nitrites again that may be a sign you're starting to lose some BB from the PH being too low. Maybe try another product like the Seachem Marine Buffer Eco suggested to see if you can get the PH above 7?
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K, here is the test results from last night (after 24 hours from 4ppm ammo) my Ammonia .25/.50, nitrites are at .50, and my nitrates are at 40ppm. Am i safe to say that I am getting back on track if I am almost consuming all my ammonia in 24 hours and my nitrites are not spiking?
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:42 AM   #17
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Ok, a week later and it looks like my cycle has gone back to the nitite part. I was getting around .25 and .50 ammo and nitrite all last week until last night, last night I was at 0-.25 ammo but had 5ppm nitrites.
Now, during the morning on Sunday I tested a drop in my ph to 6, that test was taken at 5am and before that the last test was at 11pm Saturday (6 hours). I have been testing every 2 hours when I am home and not sleeping to watch for sudden drops and this was the first big drop since the post was started.
Is it safe to say that my cycle is back to phase 2? Should I throw in the towel due to the acidic water here? Anyone who has fought this battle with ph and willing to share your method would be helpful .
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One other thing that hasn't been brought up is what about cutting back on ammonia dosing? 4ppm is a ton of ammonia for the tank to process daily and it's not likely that you are going to stock so heavily to recreate this amount of ammonia production anyhow.

Worst case scenario if you cut back on the ammonia dosing is that when you do start stocking you might have to do it in stages rather than all at once, but at least it's a different approach to the problem.

You don't have to follow these guides to the exact letter to cycle your tank, they aren't meant to cover every single possible situation.
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Ty Jeta, I will try lowering the dose on todays and see what that brings.
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