PH problem - Aquarium Advice

critter333294 · 10-28-2006, 06:52 PM

I recently tested my aquarium water and found it was drastically lower than my tap. My tank is cycling so there are no fish to worry about yet. Still, how did this happen and can it be fixed? I have pet store bought ornaments and no live plants or driftwood. Aquarium PH=6.5 , Tap=7.

rich311k · 10-28-2006, 07:51 PM

Not that big a difference. I would not worry about it until the cycle is finished. If you want to bring it back up, you could do a water change. Does it keep going down or has it stabilized?

JDogg · 10-28-2006, 08:18 PM

like rich said as long are you have no fish to worry about it should be ok, keep an eye on it and see if it stabilizes.

critter333294 · 10-28-2006, 08:27 PM

Alright. Next time I check for ammonia and nitrates, i'll check on PH too.

Gplayerz · 10-30-2006, 11:24 PM

No fish No problem

7Enigma · 10-31-2006, 10:25 AM

What size tank do you have? I would add baking soda to bring the pH back up around 7.2-7.5. I can give you an estimation of how much you need to add if I know the amount of water. The baking soda will not adversely affect the cycle and will be removed by your large PWC prior to addition of fish. It's the safest way to increase the pH of the tank and will help to speed up the cycle.

critter333294 · 10-31-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 7Enigma

What size tank do you have? I would add baking soda to bring the pH back up around 7.2-7.5. I can give you an estimation of how much you need to add if I know the amount of water. The baking soda will not adversely affect the cycle and will be removed by your large PWC prior to addition of fish. It's the safest way to increase the pH of the tank and will help to speed up the cycle.

Really? I didnt know that. I have a 29g. I read your other topic and thought it had some good info

7Enigma · 10-31-2006, 07:26 PM

Baking soda (NOT baking powder) is commonly used in planted tanks where we inject CO2 which causes the pH to drop. In low KH tanks (baking soda increases the KH value), the pH can swing drastically when the CO2 is being injected. We add baking soda to limit the pH swing. Baking soda has the added benefit in low pH tanks of increasing the pH (as it will buffer upwards of pH8 depending on how much is added).

I would add a 1/2 teaspoon and check your pH (give it an hour or so to mix thoroughly). That will not raise the KH much, but might be enough to keep your pH closer to 7. If your still under 7.0 I'd probably use another 1/2 teaspoon. For reference I add 1/4teaspoon to every 5 gallons of tank water during my PWC's to increase the KH from 2 degrees to ~5.

Note for others reading this is ONLY for FISHLESS CYCLING. We don't have to be "nice" about changing parameters slowly when no fish/inverts are present. We want the optimal conditions for bacterial growth, which as mentioned is ~7.5 as a compromise between the 2 bacterial types needed.

critter333294 · 11-01-2006, 06:53 PM

Well I tested my levels today and ammonia went down again, still no nitrites, didnt test nitrates though. But that's not why i'm posting here again. I tested my ph a few days ago and it was at 7. This was in broad daylight. I got that 6.5 reading at night. So i'm thinking......maybe it's been 7 all along(it was 7 today) and I just got a false reading from bad lighting. Do you think I should still add baking soda though?

7Enigma · 11-02-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by critter333294

Well I tested my levels today and ammonia went down again, still no nitrites, didnt test nitrates though. But that's not why i'm posting here again. I tested my ph a few days ago and it was at 7. This was in broad daylight. I got that 6.5 reading at night. So i'm thinking......maybe it's been 7 all along(it was 7 today) and I just got a false reading from bad lighting. Do you think I should still add baking soda though?

No I would not add baking soda then. These color tests are so variable due to lighting you always need to check under the same conditions. I always go the a window to take my readings as most of our lights are yellow which will throw off the percieved color of the tube.

And umm, if ammonia went down, and you have no nitrItes, you umm...are probably finished the cycle....

Dose back to 2ppm ammonia and check again in 24hours. If no ammonia or nitrIte you are done!

10-28-2006, 06:52 PM	#1
critter333294 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 70 Images: 5	PH problem I recently tested my aquarium water and found it was drastically lower than my tap. My tank is cycling so there are no fish to worry about yet. Still, how did this happen and can it be fixed? I have pet store bought ornaments and no live plants or driftwood. Aquarium PH=6.5 , Tap=7.

10-28-2006, 08:18 PM	#3
JDogg Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northfield, MN Posts: 2,221 Images: 12	like rich said as long are you have no fish to worry about it should be ok, keep an eye on it and see if it stabilizes. __________________ Follow my adventures into the land of Nano Reefs HERE http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSC01648.jpg

10-31-2006, 10:25 AM	#6
7Enigma Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 2,624 Images: 5	What size tank do you have? I would add baking soda to bring the pH back up around 7.2-7.5. I can give you an estimation of how much you need to add if I know the amount of water. The baking soda will not adversely affect the cycle and will be removed by your large PWC prior to addition of fish. It's the safest way to increase the pH of the tank and will help to speed up the cycle. __________________ 20G High -Currently in tank: 1 checkered barb, 1 cory, 1 BN pleco, MTS, variety of platy (fry, juvi, adult), lots of plants. http://www.photolocker.net/images/7Enigma/milfoil2.jpg

10-31-2006, 07:26 PM	#8
7Enigma Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 2,624 Images: 5	Baking soda (NOT baking powder) is commonly used in planted tanks where we inject CO2 which causes the pH to drop. In low KH tanks (baking soda increases the KH value), the pH can swing drastically when the CO2 is being injected. We add baking soda to limit the pH swing. Baking soda has the added benefit in low pH tanks of increasing the pH (as it will buffer upwards of pH8 depending on how much is added). I would add a 1/2 teaspoon and check your pH (give it an hour or so to mix thoroughly). That will not raise the KH much, but might be enough to keep your pH closer to 7. If your still under 7.0 I'd probably use another 1/2 teaspoon. For reference I add 1/4teaspoon to every 5 gallons of tank water during my PWC's to increase the KH from 2 degrees to ~5. Note for others reading this is ONLY for FISHLESS CYCLING. We don't have to be "nice" about changing parameters slowly when no fish/inverts are present. We want the optimal conditions for bacterial growth, which as mentioned is ~7.5 as a compromise between the 2 bacterial types needed. __________________ 20G High -Currently in tank: 1 checkered barb, 1 cory, 1 BN pleco, MTS, variety of platy (fry, juvi, adult), lots of plants. http://www.photolocker.net/images/7Enigma/milfoil2.jpg

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10-28-2006, 07:51 PM	#2
rich311k Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,972 Images: 35	Not that big a difference. I would not worry about it until the cycle is finished. If you want to bring it back up, you could do a water change. Does it keep going down or has it stabilized?

10-28-2006, 08:27 PM	#4
critter333294 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 70 Images: 5	Alright. Next time I check for ammonia and nitrates, i'll check on PH too.

10-30-2006, 11:24 PM	#5
Gplayerz Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springfield Gardens, NY Posts: 71 Images: 4	No fish No problem

11-01-2006, 06:53 PM	#9
critter333294 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 70 Images: 5	Well I tested my levels today and ammonia went down again, still no nitrites, didnt test nitrates though. But that's not why i'm posting here again. I tested my ph a few days ago and it was at 7. This was in broad daylight. I got that 6.5 reading at night. So i'm thinking......maybe it's been 7 all along(it was 7 today) and I just got a false reading from bad lighting. Do you think I should still add baking soda though?

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