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Old 07-01-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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talk to me about "Pee Ponics"

I'm considering this as I can't find ammonia w/o surfactants ANYWHERE. Thoughts? I'm still gathering supplies so I'm not gonna be doing this anytime soon, just researching atm.
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I've not heard of that specifically. I'm guessing it involves using urine for tank cycling or plant fertilization?
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I've not heard of that specifically. I'm guessing it involves using urine for tank cycling or plant fertilization?
Fishless cycling. Some suggest using aged human urine as an ammonia source. I'd like see if anyone on here has tried it.
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I've seen people suggest it. Can't say that I'd suggest it though, just imagine the thought of sticking your hand in a toilet every time you did something in your tank. Use a raw shrimp or 3 if you can't find any ammonia
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:28 PM   #5
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I've seen people suggest it. Can't say that I'd suggest it though, just imagine the thought of sticking your hand in a toilet every time you did something in your tank. Use a raw shrimp or 3 if you can't find any ammonia
That's where I am on it at this point. I think what I'm looking for is for someone to convince me to try it.
>.< raw shrimp is my backup plan!
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I wonder how many people saw my thread title and had their stomachs turn at the thought. Lol!
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:38 PM   #7
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Yeah I don't think I could do that. I work in a hospital and I still don't think I could put pee in my tank...good luck though if you give it a run... :/
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Yeah I don't think I could do that. I work in a hospital and I still don't think I could put pee in my tank...good luck though if you give it a run... :/
Haha thanks. I'm nowhere near convinced yet.
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I would take rookies advice and go for the shrimp... Is there any way you could get some seeded filter media?? That's the route I used and it was smooth sailing
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Have you tried the Ace Hardware store locator? Or do you have a Dollar Tree in your area? As a last resort, amazon sells the ace stuff as well as quite a few other brands. I have read stories before of people peeing in their tanks to provide an ammonia source but I can only imagine how bad their homes smelled... If you do try it, I am curious as well as to how this turns out!
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I would take rookies advice and go for the shrimp... Is there any way you could get some seeded filter media?? That's the route I used and it was smooth sailing
Yes I have a well established tank with extra media seeding just for this.


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Have you tried the Ace Hardware store locator? Or do you have a Dollar Tree in your area? As a last resort, amazon sells the ace stuff as well as quite a few other brands. I have read stories before of people peeing in their tanks to provide an ammonia source but I can only imagine how bad their homes smelled... If you do try it, I am curious as well as to how this turns out!
The closest ace is thirty miles for me, and I live just south of DC so 30 miles feels more like 50 with local traffic . Ill definitely look for a Dollar Tree. Thanks!
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I've used blue ribbon brand from dollar tree myself when running some tests, so hopefully you'll be able to find it.

I don't like the idea of peeing into the tank for another reason besides the ones given. Since it's waste there's who knows what in it, chemical wise, hormones, anything, just stuff I wouldn't want to put in a contained system if I could help it.
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I've used blue ribbon brand from dollar tree myself when running some tests, so hopefully you'll be able to find it.

I don't like the idea of peeing into the tank for another reason besides the ones given. Since it's waste there's who knows what in it, chemical wise, hormones, anything, just stuff I wouldn't want to put in a contained system if I could help it.
Jeta, that's exactly what I'm thinking. I drink way too much coffee for this. I know urine is supposedly sterile, however that says nothing about things that pass through urine. I just found out my husband passes a dollar tree on his way from work, I'll have him check for me.
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I dont have the link, but dr. Tim's aquatics has pre-measured bottles of ammonia that are made specifically for fish less cycling. Just search "dr tims ammonia" and you should find it. (very cheap, u can order online) worked wonders for my tank

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I even used fish food to get ammonia up
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I just found 100% Ammonia at Walgreens. The label says Nice! Clear Ammonia. Ingredients are listed as water and ammonium hydroxide. I am getting ready to start a fishless cycle now.
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I dont have the link, but dr. Tim's aquatics has pre-measured bottles of ammonia that are made specifically for fish less cycling. Just search "dr tims ammonia" and you should find it. (very cheap, u can order online) worked wonders for my tank

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Found it!!!: https://store.drtimsaquatics.com/Amm...ing_p_190.html
Great! I am about to order a few things from Dr Tim. If I can't find it locally then I'll definitely order it from him.

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I just found 100% Ammonia at Walgreens. The label says Nice! Clear Ammonia. Ingredients are listed as water and ammonium hydroxide. I am getting ready to start a fishless cycle now.
Thanks! I didn't think to look there.
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