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Yosiparrish

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Hi there, I'm a newbie. my 12 gal tank was done cycling and I have 6 glofish tetras and 3 ghost shrimps for a wk. Api test kit is used. N1 7.6, n2 0, n3 0, n4 10. Temp 78. Java fern, water wisteria, Anubias, water lily with gravel. Api water conditioner is used (.25 mL for 5 gal). After I replaced 2gal for Pwc, poor fish seemed to be less active and n2 spiked up .25. I didn't test the new water before pwc :(. I did test it when I started the fish less cycling, n2 was 0 and I assumed the water would be the same. Anyway, after checking out the water report of Manatee, Fl, I got chloromine is 3.5. So, city water with chloromine of 3.5. After adding 0.6 mL to 5 gal, n1 7.6, n2 1.
If you use Api products, can you pls tell me what else should I add in to remove ammonia after using Api water conditioner to remove chloromine? I have api water conditioner and api stress coat but I don't know how/when to use it. If any brand you recommend, would you pls let me know? Highly appreciate your time and guidance.
 
Hands down Seachem Prime


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Seachem Prime will work well for you. Many here, myself included use it.


Caleb
Hi Caleb and all, thanks for your speedy reply and great advise. I had problem logging in, then i had to race to Lfs for the Seachem Prime to save the poor fish, then my little boy got sick the whole wk after catching some germs from school, then the fish got ich until now. Having the fish tank is never on my list. It happens that my little guy has his DNA screwed up somewhere that he cant have any pets with fur and cant enjoy ourdoor activities like other kids. He always glues his eyes to the beautiful fish tank at the library and seems very happy that I decided to have some fish at home. I'm glad that he doesnt have lots of screentime and is very happy checking out those beautiful glofish tetras these days. Anyway, the fish seem to be very happy and lively when I switch to Seachem Prime. One tetra has been sick the day i got them home and he infected the others. With Seachem Prime in hand, i can just keep changing the water on daily basic until theyre all healthy and happy. Big Thank! Youre Awesome!!!
 
Not to be a pessimist but that sounds like a lot of disease!

Do you know about the nitrogen cycle that takes place in aquariums?


Caleb
 
Not to be a pessimist but that sounds like a lot of disease!

Do you know about the nitrogen cycle that takes place in aquariums?


Caleb

Caleb, pls do tell me about it. Ive been changing 50% of water when i found the a spot on the fish. The day he got home, he had white feces but i didnt know it was the 1st sign of sickness. Started searching and reading then I checked them out everyday, did water test and started 50%PWC and vaccuum everyday. It was killing me. 3 days ago i didnt find any spot on any of them but i still 50%PWC n vaccuum until yesterday. I had the chem to treat ich but id rather change water daily as i think the fish prefer clean water. Yes, thanks to all the great articles provided, i do aware Ni cycle is going. Cranked temp up to 82F. Supposed to be 86F but i dont have air pump and air stones in tank. Daily test shown: n1 7.2, n2 0, n3 0, n4 5-10 (since i have pwc daily :-( ). Hat off to you and others, this hobby requres lots knowledge and hard work. Pls provide me with some advise of how to fix my current problem and how to keep them stay alive. Thanks for your time and help.
 
This is what I use for social media, it is very simplified so it is easy to understand. Also I need to add to it- cycling takes 4-7 weeks from scratch, it doesn't happen overnight.

What is cycling? Cycling is short the Nitrogen Cycle. Basically, bacteria live in your tank, they are what consumes waste so it doesn't become toxic and harm your fish. But your filter does not just "come with bacteria" right out of the box! This is where cycling comes in.

Why is cycling important? Many people have said "well I didn't cycle and my fish are just fine!" Well that's because most of those people have very hardy fish like bettas, guppies, etc, they can rough it through a cycle without issue.

Where does bacteria live? Let's make this really simple: 97%=filter 2%=substrate 1% water, decor, and plants. Basically, your filter is the home of all the bacteria you care about.

Where does bacteria come from and how do I grow it? This is the miracle of nature and science. I can't tell you specifically "where" bacteria comes from, only because I don't know. What I do now is how to grow bacteria, otherwise known is cycling a tank.

What you need to cycle a tank:
1. LIQUID test kit- I will stress this till the day I die. Test strips are junk. Liquid looks expensive but in reality you save a bunch of money because it can do 200+ tests for $10 more than a 25 pack of strips. I mean who wouldn't snag that deal?? You MUST have a test kit that you can get actual numbers from or else cycling will be near impossible without trips to the store for them to do it.

2. An ammonia source. This can be produced in a variety of ways. Fish obviously is the first method, this is the path of FISH-IN cycling. Simple right? Other sources include 10% grade ammonia from the hardware store, this is only a couple bucks. You can use uncooked shrimp from the grocery store and put it in a pantyhose so it doesn't make a mess. Or plain fish food is fine too but not as effective sometimes. These sources are used for a FISHLESS cycle.

Why do we need an ammonia source? This is what begins cycling. Ammonia is what feeds your bacteria to where they can reproduce and allows you to continue through the nitrogen cycle.

Enough questions let's get on with it:

Fishless cycling: this is really easy method, but you have an empty tank. On the flip side, you can do whatever adjustments you want to it so when you get fish it's perfect. If you are dosing ammonia by the bottle: shoot for 3ppm-4ppm. Google can provide a dosing calculator so you can know just how much to dose for your tank size. If you are using a table shrimp, just throw it in, it will naturally boost the ammonia and you just add a new shrimp when the other has decomposed. Now you want to use your test kit to measure how much ammonia you need to dose, it's simple math once you know how much makes 3ppm.

Fish-in cycling: This is where it can get tricky. Because you have fish you need to keep them safe. During a cycle, this will require daily testing and quite possibly daily water changes. You want to keep ammonia under 1ppm and nitrite under 0.50ppm if possible as both are highly toxic to fish.

Both cycles: in the beginning you will see ammonia start to rise, over time, the bacteria will overcome this and in a fishless you will need to start dosing daily(bottled ammonia) as time goes on. From there you will move to nitrites. Once you hit nitrites this is the longest phase. One day you will wake up and nitrites will be gone and you will be left with nitrAtes. Nitrates is the final product of the nitrogen cycle and is non toxic in lower levels. This is then removed through your weekly water changes.

Once the cycle is completed you should not see any signs on ammonia and nitrites, because now your tank is cycled.

Bacterial supplements: please understand these are a game of chance. They don't always work, sometimes they do nothing. Just know, I have NEVER seen one of these fully complete a cycle, only give a jump start. Please keep that in mind that just because you dump a bottle in doesn't mean your tank cycled..


Caleb
 
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