Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 08-22-2006, 05:57 PM   #1
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
woods other than "drift"...

Are these items "tank safe"?


assume all items are "dry", not green, with bark intact

Logs of:

Birch
Cherry
Oak
Pine
Peach
Acorn
Bamboo reeds


Non logs:

Pine Cones
Dry cat-tail (stem only in water for biotope)
Other dry reeds

I am considering some ideas for a planted tank in the near future. Some ideas include the use of especially dried birch logs, a everglades biotope or a st. johns river biotope, and a bamboo themed planted tank.

Thanks in advance for any info.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 07:01 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Sicklid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 1,051
Mmm, I think alot of those items are no-nos, fishy... I know pine is no good cause it has sap and will cloud the water and the pine cones are the same. Dead/cut bamboo is a definate no-no because it begins to rot almost immediately and boy, does it stink (ever smell an entire bag of rotten Idaho potatoes? How about a rotten palm tree trunk?) but live bamboo has been tried as a plant, but not submerged. As far as I know, most driftwood has been immersed for a long time, or has even been growing underwater before it died or was harvested (I am beginning to wonder about all this driftwood we buy for our tanks and if it has any bearing on de-forestation) and many dry branches will just proceed to rot quickly. The wood must be "petrified" almost... I know that Oak is a hardwood, so maybe that will last a while, but someone else may provide a definate answer on that one.
__________________

__________________
Sicklid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 07:39 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ashland KY
Posts: 1,918
Send a message via Yahoo to tropicfishman
I just used any kind of branches I found and liked, I just boiled them and soaked them, no problems yet
__________________
I love my clown loaches and red tail shark!!! lol
tropicfishman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 07:45 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 2,108
Send a message via AIM to hc8719 Send a message via MSN to hc8719
whats the wood for, you really dont need to go so far for a pleco if thats who your doing it for.

if its for otos why not just keep them on veggies, cucumbers are only like 25 cents
__________________
hc8719 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 09:03 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Champaign, IL
Posts: 2,724
I assume the wood is for looks, and not for fish to eat.

I am fairly sure that oak, cherry, and beech are good. Pine and bamboo are out. The others I am not quite sure, but I wouldn't.

I am not sure what acorn is. If it is a tree with acorns (oak), then yes. If it is an acorn, no.
RogerMcAllen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 10:27 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
QTOFFER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kew Gardens, NY
Posts: 4,295
The hardwoods (birch, oak, cherry, peach, apple, maple, etc) won't harm the water if you clean them first. The big problem I foresee is getting them to sink - they're nowhere as dense as the Malaysian driftwood sold in the lfs. You'd probably have to attach the wood to slate using stainless steel screws.

Longevity would be another issue. Based on my experience with these woods in carpentry, I'd guess that the birch would start to decompose first (within a few months), followed by the fruitwoods - the maple and oak would probably last the longest underwater.

Pine and pinecones have sap as previously mentioned. I have no idea how their oils would affect the fish - I'd avoid them.

Dry bamboo and reeds would rot pretty quickly.
__________________
QTOFFER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2006, 11:45 PM   #7
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
bummer. thanks for the advice folks.

I'd like to do an aquascape on a birch log. perhaps I can find something man-made
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 04:35 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
petunia100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pennington, NJ
Posts: 161
Send a message via Yahoo to petunia100
I don't know what type of cherry you are refering to but I know that wild cherry/black cherry has hydrocyanic acid, or cyanide in it's leaves and twigs, I don't know about the larger portions of the plant or if it can be treated and removed but I probably would avoid using it in an aquarium where it could leach into the water. My dad would never let us use branches from the cherry trees to roast our marshmellows when I was little which is why I remember.

http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/trees/PRUSERA.pdf#search='poison%20cherry%20wood'
__________________

__________________
petunia100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
drift

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Duckweed" (Lemna Minor) and "Water Spangles" (Salvinia Minima) floating plants jackdaniel Archive 3 09-28-2009 10:16 AM
"Thread" "worms" What's in my 10gal tank HouseDragon Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 4 10-06-2006 03:02 PM
Can you "make" LR from bare, "dead" type runway1 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 4 01-07-2005 03:14 PM
Peppermint shrimp "Candy", and "Kane" seafan New Acquisitions 1 01-06-2005 02:12 PM
"Frag" - "Barter"/"Trade" for OmarD Archive 1 11-26-2003 11:14 AM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×