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Old 01-28-2005, 11:52 AM   #41
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Also isnt this 14-16 PPT on the refracto??
12-14PPT I believe. Don't have mine here right now to check. I can verify that later for you.
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Im going to bring the salinity down to 1.009 and leave it there for 3-4 weeks
At least 4 weeks, more would be OK. Fish can handle it for several months.
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:46 PM   #42
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I think your right. Well whatever the PPT is, Im shooting for 1.009 to 1.010 which I think is the recommended amt if I am remembering right....I think i will go for 6-7 weeks as tearing all of the rock and such out of my tank was a PAIN!!! I have about 150 lbs of rock so I was putting some on the floor on towels, some in buckets of tank wtater, and some in the sump...was only out about 5-8 minutes but it was just the rock...no corals..ARG!!
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Old 01-28-2005, 01:18 PM   #43
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I know its tough. Catching the fish is a pain.
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i am sure people have thought of this, but i caught mine at night when they were sleeping and put them in the sump untill the next day when i could acclimate them to the QT. even the clown goby which always hides and sits in rocks and corals was no problem at night. i just nudged him out of a coral into a net with a smaller net. they were much easier to get out of the sump in daylight. the main during the day would have been very frustrating

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Old 01-28-2005, 01:49 PM   #45
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but i caught mine at night when they were sleeping and put them in the sump untill the next day when i could acclimate them to the QT
Good tip!!
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:12 PM   #46
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I turned my lights out and let the fish settle down. I did catch my clown very easily as he sleeps to where I could get to him. And even my regal was fairly easy. But my damsel and dottieback were CRAZY! They both swim all hours of the night. I can go in there at any point in the night and they are swimming. I have weird fish! But yes this is a good tip and probably works for most fish.
Today or tomorrow I have the task of putting my rock back together and arranging it. I was so tired last night that once I caught them all, I just started chucking the rock back in the tank and didnt care what it looked like!
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:52 PM   #47
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I now have all of my fish in my QT and they are doing well. I do have another question. Ok, so lets say that since one of the fish has shown signs of ick and thus the reason for putting them in the QT, after you lower the salinity to 12-14 PPT, then leaving it there kills the ick right? In other words I dont have to worry about doing anything else other than keeping it at the treatment level for 4-6 weeks and this kills the parasite? I guess I had read somewhere where you had to increase the temp to speed the life cycle up but I have not done this. I have kept the temp at 79-81.
Secondly when I get the level to 12-14 PPT, and leave it there, and say I want to do a water change. Do I just mix new SW to this level and take out the same amt I am putting back in as the new?
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after you lower the salinity to 12-14 PPT, then leaving it there kills the ick right?
It's not advisable to lower the salinity below 14 ppt, upto 16 ppt.

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In other words I dont have to worry about doing anything else other than keeping it at the treatment level for 4-6 weeks and this kills the parasite?
4 weeks minimum at 14 ppt yes. You don't have to do much else except monitor water quality, especially alkalinity and pH. It's extremely important to check those daily a well as salinity.

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I guess I had read somewhere where you had to increase the temp to speed the life cycle up but I have not done this. I have kept the temp at 79-81.
Leaving there is the best choice. Raising the temp does increase the life cycle some but the optimal temp for C. irritans is 86¬į so it doesn't accomplish much. It is inadvisable to manipulate the temp in any way. The main concern being the fish, not the parasite. Temp manipulation causes changes to the pH in the fish's blood reducing the immune response allowing for greater chances of secondary infection and further infestation while the treatment does it's job.

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Secondly when I get the level to 12-14 PPT, and leave it there, and say I want to do a water change. Do I just mix new SW to this level and take out the same amt I am putting back in as the new?
Basically yes. Just be sure to check alk and pH as well and as before no lower than 14 ppt.

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Your right...sorry I cant keep the PPT numbers straight in my head. And yes Im checking the PH and AK. Im adding Kent Super buffer and I am checking the PH for sure. I guess I need to chk the AK as well but wouldnt both be up if I am adding buffer? What would I add to bring the AK up if needed?
ANd no Im not messing with the temp. Just trying to keep it stable.
What are the chances that I go through 6-7 weeks of hypo at these levels, no fish in my main, and then put the fish back in the tank and they come down with ick again?
Lastly, I have a velvet dottieback in the QT tank right now as one of the four fish. I noticed that some of his scales appear to be raised a bit??? Maybe they arent...just when the angle is right, it appears he might have the bumps? I assume this is just the ick popping up and they will fall off of him just like the others? My regal has shown no other bumps since going into QT is the reason I ask. Nor have any of the other fish. All are eating well too by the way.
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Your right...sorry I cant keep the PPT numbers straight in my head.
My bad, I just looked at my refractmeter and it is 14-16 PPT. Out of sight out of mind I guess.
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