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Old 11-02-2004, 10:04 PM   #1
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Blue Damsel Acting Weird

I have a 40 Gallon w/ Bio Wheel 400, PC, 24'' Actinic, Few Coral, Clown Perc, Yellow Tang, Fame Angel and Blue Damsel. My water is fine PH is ideal, Nitrates and Nitrites Ideal, Amm is safe. For about 5 days now my Blue Damsel will not eat much, he was the only fish in the tank up until Friday, then i added the tang, angel and clown. The Angel eats little and the Damsel eats less. The tang and the clown eat normally.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:15 PM   #2
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In addition to that the Blue Damsel is breathing heavily as well. He has been hiding and now he is in the middle of the tank, breathing heavily.
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Fish: Huma Huma Trigger | Yellow Tang | Royal Gramma | Cleaner Goby | 4 Four Stripe Damsels | 1 Three Stripe Damsel | 2 Domino Damsels
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:16 PM   #3
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Did you add all those fish at once? When you say ammonia is safe and nitrite is ideal do you mean 0? The more exact info you give the more we can help.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:17 PM   #4
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three of them at once, ammonia and is safe and the nitrite is 0
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125 gal w/ 40 Gal Sump (Sump 4"DSB)
4 - Maxi-Jet 1200 Wavemaker Pro
1/3 HP Chiller | 25W UV | Seaclone Skimmer

Lighting: 3 x 250W MH 20K | 4 x 36" Actinic

Polyp/Coral/Rock: Pulsing Xenia | Ricordia Florida | Star Polyps | Button Polyps | Red & White Carnation Sponge | Small Hard Colt Tree | Brown Meat Coral. 120lbs of LR

Fish: Huma Huma Trigger | Yellow Tang | Royal Gramma | Cleaner Goby | 4 Four Stripe Damsels | 1 Three Stripe Damsel | 2 Domino Damsels
Large Red Crab | Hermits |Snails, etc.

39 Gal
Lighting: 30" 50/50 PC | 30" Single Actinic
Filter: Penguin 330 Biowheel

Polyp/Coral/Rock: Green Eyed Zoos | Colt Tree | 50+lbs of LR

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Old 11-02-2004, 10:32 PM   #5
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You have dramatically increased your bio load and your bio filter needs time to catch up. Damsels are usually the hardiest of the bunch so watch the others closely. A 25% water change can not hurt here. You should also get yourself a more precise test kit for ammonia. Quarantine is the preferred method for adding new livestock. You could have introduced disease to your tank. Please read through some of the articles here at AA before adding any additional fish. Good Luck.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:45 PM   #6
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K, all of the other fish seem to be doing very well. I Just did a twenty about three days ago. How do it set up a Quaratine tank?
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Polyp/Coral/Rock: Pulsing Xenia | Ricordia Florida | Star Polyps | Button Polyps | Red & White Carnation Sponge | Small Hard Colt Tree | Brown Meat Coral. 120lbs of LR

Fish: Huma Huma Trigger | Yellow Tang | Royal Gramma | Cleaner Goby | 4 Four Stripe Damsels | 1 Three Stripe Damsel | 2 Domino Damsels
Large Red Crab | Hermits |Snails, etc.

39 Gal
Lighting: 30" 50/50 PC | 30" Single Actinic
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Polyp/Coral/Rock: Green Eyed Zoos | Colt Tree | 50+lbs of LR

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Old 11-02-2004, 10:55 PM   #7
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You can use at least a 10g tank with heater and a simple filtration system (sponge or hang on back) seeded with bacteria from the main tank. Keep it bare bottom with some PVC or anything the fish can hide. Use at least 50% of the water from the main tank and monitor water parameters closely. This will give you an environment to treat new or sick fish. You can medicate if necessary without treating your main tank.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:59 PM   #8
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Ok, what about the Damsel. I was just wondering, I have a Marine test kit and i am about to test my ammonia with the liquid stuff. What do i do if it is too high, etc...


Sorry, I am just worried about my fish.
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Polyp/Coral/Rock: Pulsing Xenia | Ricordia Florida | Star Polyps | Button Polyps | Red & White Carnation Sponge | Small Hard Colt Tree | Brown Meat Coral. 120lbs of LR

Fish: Huma Huma Trigger | Yellow Tang | Royal Gramma | Cleaner Goby | 4 Four Stripe Damsels | 1 Three Stripe Damsel | 2 Domino Damsels
Large Red Crab | Hermits |Snails, etc.

39 Gal
Lighting: 30" 50/50 PC | 30" Single Actinic
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Water changes are #1. But for an emergency you can add some Prime or other ammo-lock type of product.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:05 PM   #10
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OK, Ammonia is good, i just checked. Should I add something for the bio load?
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4 - Maxi-Jet 1200 Wavemaker Pro
1/3 HP Chiller | 25W UV | Seaclone Skimmer

Lighting: 3 x 250W MH 20K | 4 x 36" Actinic

Polyp/Coral/Rock: Pulsing Xenia | Ricordia Florida | Star Polyps | Button Polyps | Red & White Carnation Sponge | Small Hard Colt Tree | Brown Meat Coral. 120lbs of LR

Fish: Huma Huma Trigger | Yellow Tang | Royal Gramma | Cleaner Goby | 4 Four Stripe Damsels | 1 Three Stripe Damsel | 2 Domino Damsels
Large Red Crab | Hermits |Snails, etc.

39 Gal
Lighting: 30" 50/50 PC | 30" Single Actinic
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