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Old 04-08-2010, 12:57 AM   #11
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It is hosting in your fish it just does not show up in the #'s that can kill them.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:58 AM   #12
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ich goes through life stages it falls from the fish into the sand bed were it lives and grows then offspring goes back to fish.
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:01 AM   #13
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Are you talking about garlic fresh from the fields cause i can get tons of that.
Yes, the element that helps fight off the infection and boost appetite is called "Allicin" and since it deteriates rapidly it's best used fresh as a squeeze, but researchers are finding more and better things in garlic that are good, not only for the fish but for you too.
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More on garlic:Garlic
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:16 AM   #15
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cool i will swing by my gf house tomorow and grab some from their back yard lol altho my tang is eating healvily on a mixture of flakes that already have garlic and mysis brine and cyclops frozen cubes which i mix together to feed my tank. so his appitie is still good
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:34 AM   #16
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remember that the ich will in it's first stage fall off the fish in a few days so as to make it seem like the fish healed itself. If this is the case the cyst fall off into the substrate and reproduce themselves and reinfect the fish again but in a lot greater # and this will usually kill the fish. Sometimes we don't notice the ich until this second reinfestation and that is why a fish will die in a couple of days.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:36 AM   #17
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The only way to rid a tank of ICH is to remove all fish from the tank for a minimum of 30 days or treat the tank with copper. Copper would mean you would be left with a FO tank as it will kill all inverts too.
Once the parasite is in the tank it will always be there and it will be in your fish. UNLESS you treat for it. Garlic does not kill the parasite. All it does is increase the appetite of the fish so they will eat. That will help them get stronger, maybe strong enough to survive. So now you are living with a ticking time bomb in your tank. Take a vacation or somehow let the water parameters get to be less than perfect and a full blown outbreak is waiting to occur.

When I had an outbreak in my 125 I bought a 30 gallon tank to treat all my fish in. I also bought a heater and powerfilter with a biowheel. I used HYPOSALINITY to treat. Capturing the fish was not easy. I had to remove most of the LR to do it. I put the LR in some plastic bins while I was catching the fish. I thought I had lost a bi-color blenny as I could not find it anywhere. When I started putting the LR back in the tank the blenny jumped out of a hole in a rock into the plastic bin. I scooped it up and put in the QT tank.

Yes, it's a lot of work. But, I have not had an outbreak since. I QT all new fish for 30 days before putting them in the DT to make sure I don't have to go through that again.

To summarize: There are two methods to rid a tank of ICH; 1. Remove and treat all fish outside of the tank for 30 days minimum (6-8 weeks recommended); 2. treat the tank with a copper based medication.

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+1 for TC, remember once the fish have it and its not present its still there
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