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Old 08-06-2005, 06:52 PM   #21
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you do them every day until the problem is under control....
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:57 PM   #22
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Once again...what are the levels in your source water? What type are you using? I am getting tired of repeating myself.
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:59 PM   #23
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I use Seachem for the basic stuff and RedSea for the other stuff.

Since they are Marine kits I didnt think I could test FW water.
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Your Red Sea PO4 kit should work on FW.
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Zac, my powerhead stopped working twice. I took them apart and found sand in it. I washed it out, and it worked just fine. Might want to give that a try.
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zacdl.. have you checked to make sure the impeller and the impeller housing on your PH are clean? and if you cant tell NO3 10+ levels then you might want to get your NO3 down below that level or get a new testkit that you can read..
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Wow this post is getting big quick... I just read it for the first time... Sorry I missed it.

Zac like the others are saying chem clean is a bandaid.. And with your corals doing poor adding chemicals IMO is not the way to go.
Light- Cyno needs light but shutting off your tank lights for 24-36 hours will not make it go away for long. I had it BAD in my fuge and I had to shut the lights off for over 2 weeks to make it go away. So IMO the light is not the main problem.
cyno needs a food source, you need to find it and then cut it off..
Any PO4 in the water is food for cyno, if your showing lets say 1 then there is more them 1 in the tank, remember cyno is feeding off this stuff so it is using it to live so there is more like a reading of 2 in the tank. You need to test top off water for PO4, that is how it was getting into my tank, top off for my kold sterile unit the PO4 level in my well went up this summer.

Wash corals in tank water you have in a bucket and use some hose and syphon it off them. Corals are tough so do not worry about hurting most of them.

Phosban reactor is IMO the way to go.. $35 at marinedepot now..
I got mine and within a month the cyno was reduced, I was also doing water changes with ro/di water and syphoning the cyno off the SB also.
The PBR comes with enough phosban to treat 150 gallon tank and it lasts for 3 months depending on how bad the PO4 is.

Power head take it apart and soak it in vinager for a day to clean it well.

So to wrap it up.... any level of po4 is BAD.. chemicals are a quick temp fix, Low flow and wrong spectrum lighting also help cyno grow..
Nitrates can effect the health of your corals....
Good luck and keep up the fight... it took me a year to break down and get the reactor, I wish I did it earlier when I look back at all the water changes and extra work.
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Zac sorry to hear about all your troubles. You was warned wasn't you and from what I can tell you are going to do it your way and not listen to anyone that has experience with this problem. Trash the whisper 20 and get you a skimmer. With the whisper you are asking for trouble. I would bet your water is the problem. Try doing water changes with ro/di water only. Macro algaes do tend to get rid of some of the nutriants in your tank that feed the cyano. Harvest the macro algaes when they grow and pitch them. Physically remove as much (cyano) as you can everyday while doing water changes with ro/di water. Last but not least get you some good books!!!! Do not rely on what hundreds of people tell you if you don't believe them read what the experts say. I have The Reef Aquarium #1 and 2. I use them as a bible and have never lost a fish or coral in 8 years. Know your limitations! Sorry to seem so harsh but you will loose everything if you don't. Cyano is hard to get rid of and all the water changes in the world won't help if your source water is not good.
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i had this problem back about a few months ago.i switch to using ro/di water instead of using tap water.i had a bad case of the stuff cyano.i scrub it off using a tooth brush and the rest of it that i could not get off my lfs told me to use Maracyn.i looked at them funny like that not going to work either but it actually did could not believe it. since using that and ro/di water i havn't had problems with it since. make sure that you turn off your protein skimmer before using this it will make it go crazy.
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OK I will try to test the PO4 tonight (looonnnggg day, might not get to it )

I did the 24 hours off thing. It seemed to kill the thinner layer of cyano, at least on the corals where it was most noticible. Corals still closed though.

I lessened the light cycle as well.

Picking up that Chemi Clean tomorrow is the plan.

I will try to get the PH looked at tonight as well.

Should I remove carbon before adding Chemi Clean? The Whisper will not take it out will it (other than the carbon)?
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