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Old 06-28-2009, 05:43 AM   #11
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Thanks thincat! Wow - what a great pic! A clownfish hosting in a feather duster, that is so cool, I didn't know they could do that! I am going to get a pair of clowns after my holiday so maybe they will do that in my tank. After posting last night I went and checked on him and he was stretching further out of his tube and curling up; then I went and looked this morning and he had shed the whole crown
Do you think it is just a coincidence that he has lost it, or would you still suspect the anemone? Incidentally the anemone has moved again overnight, could it be that whatever is stressing the feather duster is also stressing the anemone? I'm glad he didn't leave his tube as I was worrying more about that. He does look kind of nude now Will he be okay with me doing my tank maintenance or will that stress him further? I read that they can only shed a few times and then they die. Is that true? Thanks so much for your help and the lovely pic.
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:50 AM   #12
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Yes it would be okay to do a water change. Try to make the water the same temp. as the tank and you should be okay. They will die if they are forced to shed to often. The problem with your aiptasia moving about is that everytime it moves it leaves a little bit of itself behind and that grows into another Aiptasia.
Water making that much of a change can and will stress your tank animals.
Clowns are weird fish. They will host in almost any coral or duster that they find handy. I have seen them in dusters, GSP's, hammer corals and frogspawn corals. I'm sure the list goes on.
Remember one thing and that is to go slow. The only thing that comes fast to a saltwater aquarium are mistakes.
Here is a picture of what I use to help reduce the temp. in my tank. Be aware that this causes lots of evaperation so you have to check your water level daily. Also remember that only the pure water evaperates and not the salt. So just add R/O water.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:59 PM   #13
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I am trying to find a way to quote part of your reply but it just seems to quote all of it - any help there greatly appreciated!!
Just wanted to ask you what you meant by "Water making that much of a change can and will stress your tank animals".
I will watch out for baby aiptasia then where he has left and gone walkabout - I must admit I didn't see that happen before when he moved but maybe the baby was on the move aswell! The reproduction rate doesn't seem all that quick. Thanks for your pic - I've got a different setup to you - it's a biorb and is in a corner so I'm not sure how I would get a fan to it, but I have thought of putting iced water bottles in. Do you think the changes in temperature are the cause of the problem?
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:13 PM   #14
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Okay, brain was in short supply on that question on the "water". I meant change in water temp. will stress your animals. I use the frozen bottle of water and my system is to large and it makes no or very little change in my water temp. You might have better luck. So give it a try.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:34 AM   #15
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Hi thincat - thanks for your message about the heat stressing the aquatic life! Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you - more has happened since; the aiptasia continues to move, shrinking some of the time and then 'spreading out' to full size but I am not too concerned if he is affected by heat!!! I haven't seen the feather duster now for a few days and am very worried he has died in the tube. How will I know? We are going on holiday in a few weeks and I really want to find out what the cause of these problems is before I go. Also, don't want to leave things decomposing while I go away but equally don't want to remove the feather duster if he is still alive. Sorry, I hope that makes sense!!! One of my turbo snails seems to have shrunk slightly (meaning the foot, not the shell of course!!) and I saw a sexy shrimp on it. Wasn't sure if he was cleaning the snail or feeding on a dying critter, so I picked up the snail and moved him onto a flat rock. He has stayed there ever since The snails have slowed down of late, even since before the heatwave, and the hermits also appeared to slow down but they seem ok now. It's just the snails, the feather duster and the odd moving behaviour of my aiptasia that I'm dealing with - why is everything going so wrong? I have done a PWC and cleaned off some algae, I am wondering if it is the heat combined with the stress of moving things around during maintenance which has led to these problems. What should I do now? Any further diagnostics required or should I contact the lfs about my feather duster? Thanks so much and sorry this message is so long. Things have been going so well until now Maybe these lifeforms were already advanced in years when I got them but I feel that would be too much of a coincidence to be honest. I wish I could tell myself that it is the case but I am worried there is something going on that I have missed, maybe another parameter? Ammonia, nitrites and nitrates all still 0, pH difficult to read but seems to have gone up since the last filter/water change. Not sure why as it is meant to be buffered, but I am having trouble reading the test result so this could be an error on my part. I am thinking of checking the pH at my lfs tbh.
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If you're going to have the water tested be sure to get real numbers, not just oh it's fine. Have them check for all the parameter that they can. I think maybe your Alk is out of wack causing your PH to hit the roof. Be careful not to overfeed since you don't have many animals in there yet. Take it slow and you should be okay. Featherduster require a more mature reef to do well. Research your animals before you buy them.
One last thought, what is your tank temp. now?
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Okay thanks I will get the figures from the lfs, to include an alk test. Sorry, the system seemed to crash so I haven't been able to get back online since my last posting! I have been feeding more to try and get the weight on the goby, that's all. He seemed to be very thin. Do you think I should consider sending him back as he is so hard to feed and may be causing the params to become unbalanced? The other inhabitants are all cuc so it would be easier if I did take him back because I could cut the feeding right back. I did try to research the feather duster but I didn't find that they needed a mature system, they were considered to be quite easy to keep from what I read. I also had a lot of small ones hitch hike on the live rock so I saw them thriving and then looked into getting a bigger one! The tank is reaching 80 deg or slightly over at peak sun. I have frozen some bottles of water to try and get it down, but it does fall over night. The fluctuations are what is worrying me. Do you think this is the problem, apart from a possible alk issue? The pH has risen but it is not above healthy limits for marine systems; I can make out the colour enough to see that it is around 8.2 or slightly over. It seemed to change last service but not necessarily a sudden change so I hoped that it would be ok. With regards to the duster, what should I do with him? And the sessile snail?!! Thanks for your ongoing help.
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First the duster, Just leave the tube alone. There is no need to remove it.
Second, the smaller duster are nice hitchhikers and are not the type that grows large. here is a link that you might enjoy:Live Rock Hitch Hikers
What type of gobie do you have. Some, maybe most will feed on brisle worms and animals that live in your sand and liverock. They be look thin but that might just be the way they are. Do not overfeed. It could become a bad habbit...

You did not say how long you where going to be away.
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