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Old 10-19-2008, 05:21 PM   #11
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im a freshwater guy so im not sure if the treatment differs from that of saltwater.
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im a freshwater guy so im not sure if the treatment differs from that of saltwater.
It's a little different. Heating the tank does only help to accelerate the life cycle but will greatly reduce the O2 so that is not a good option for SW. QT with hyposalinity is the best method IMO.
Just a little info for you rob.
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I highly doubt its ich. I've delt with ich unfortunatly when I started my tank, made sure not to have that in the main again, hense why I require at least 3 weeks QT for all new arrivals. After further observation, the other fish ( the coral beauty) was breathing normal. I must have spooked him, he was breathing normal later on. No one is flashing and they're all eating like pirannahs heh.

Again, I know its not ich. I kept this guy in the QT for 3 weeks before putting him in the main tank. No signs of heavy breathing, no signs of spots, was eating great until real recently, he eats but not as much as he use to. After doing some research, it sounds a lot like a gill problem / gill parasite. I did a freshwater dip and now have him in the QT for observation.

Ive also read that some bacterial infections can possibly cause rapid breathing. If no improvement after a few days would any of you maybe suggest trying an antibiotic?

I'll let you guys know how he does and what turns out from it all. Thanks for trying to help
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The white and stringy excrement is a sign of intestinal parasites, nematodes, as you have already alluded to, but the scratching of gills and behavioral characteristics you've witnessed can also interpret mongenean trematodes. Digenean trematode infestations can result in damage of the gills if heavy in concentration while monogeneans usually attack the respiratory and skin. Unfortunately, this also means your other fish are susceptible since it is communicable from fish to fish. My recommendation is to lower the salinity below 20ppt (might as well hypo) and medicate the quarantine with praziquantel. The dosage for mono's is: 10mg/l for 3hrs and repeat in a week. You could, in fact, perform the previous dosage in a separate vessel and provide a longterm dosage within the main qt tank of 2mg/l for 24hrs. This way both nematode and cestode infections will be addressed and the salinity reduction will help reduce the reproduction phases. You can also gut-load live adult brine shrimp with fenbendazole (panacur) at 25mg/kg of body weight daily for 3 days (not sure if you actually tried that method). Prazi can also be fed orally at 50mg/kg of body weight for one day treatment. Not sure which route you want to go, but if prazi does not work you may eventually have to peform formalin baths.

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Check the pec fins real good too for fine grains of sand looking stuff. That's where you see marine velvet showing up first. Unlike ick, it starts in the gills first and kills fast. Hopefully you haven't got that, but the fast breathing w/out ammonia present makes me wonder.

Any new additions to the tank recently?
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Innovator to the rescue again Thanks SO much!

I have not tried gut loading brine, Since I have him in QT I will certainly try it this time. I did a freshwater bath on him for 5 minutes and dosed the QT with prazi-pro as stated on the back of the bottle. I'll dose in a week again, as also stated. The little guy seems to be breathing a bit better, I believe ( although still a bit stressed from the whole ordeal). I'll keep you updated.

No new additions recently, and other fish seem to be fine, but I will certainly keep an eye on them.
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Update: Yellow tang still breathing really fast. I went out and bought some Mayacin one and two and dosed the tank. I am stumped!! And quite honestly very frustrated.
Hes looking a bit thin, because of not eating for almost a week now.

I dont see any spots and havent yet, but i'm about to dose with Copper. I just dont know what else to do. I know sometimes you just get unlcky and cant save em all ( even the best vets cant ) but aahh! He's still alive, I'd like to try and save him..
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Look real close at him and see if he has black specs on him. Yellow tangs will get a black ick also. Almost looks like thin black tubes stuck in him. You have to look close. As far as feeding will he eat any dried seaweed or nori.
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Ive been eyeing him so closely, no spots at all as far as I can tell. No white, no black. I've been staring at him for about 3 hours today. I put green seaweed that he had been eating before in, he wont touch it, he up unti labout a week ago, would tear it off raveniously... Hes looking pretty thin. I'm certainly worried.
Sounds kind of like broolynella symptoms, but again I dont see any spots. I dont really see excessive mucus. I'm starting to look at the lesser common things now, I'm just so stumped..he's not dead yet, but i'm just about to chuch up a $50 loss I'm trying everything I can.
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