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Old 05-12-2009, 09:48 PM   #21
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he can use the liverock he got from the ocean.. its just the bit used was rather uncured..
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Yes, as far as the live rock, get some smaller size pieces and be sure to keep them either wet or at least moist. That way there will be no die off and you should be able to add a few at a time into the AQ. You need ~1-1.5 lbs per gallon of tank water. Let that go until your readings are stable 0,0,0 and not more then 20 on the nitrates. That with fresh LR should take no more then two weeks. Give that a shot before adding any more fish.
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im still wondering why the fish are dyeing. the water isnt bad and even if i dont let them get used to the new water with time, why it takes 12-24 hours until they die? shouldnt they die faster? it just looks weird to me that they get all dark..
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no thats about average for a fish death.. you have to understand the shock it is for them to be thrown from one environment to the other in such a quick ammount of time.

dark is usually a sign of stress.. any loss of color really
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well losing color yes. like in the bag after catching them. but here it looks like first they are totally fine and after 12-24 hours they seem not to be able to breath anymore and turn really dark and either go to the top of the water or to the bottom and get more and more weak ntil they finally die. can that really be the shock from hours before? i would be happy if so but it just seems like to me its something else but the water is fine like that how it is. at least no reason to die..
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I'd say the mantis may be the culprit, if not now in the very near future.
How are you acclimating your fish?
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cant be. im watching them and the mantis was the last animal i got in. the fishes died before i had him. why should the fishes have problems breathing and getting all dark because of a mantis? he dont attack anybody, in fact he really respect the snowflake and dont get close to him and just watch him from distance. i just would like to have fishes back. next time i will acclimate them very slowly and mix the water step by step for 2-3 hours. i may have made it way too fast. still dont know why the old fishes dies which was in there before then but i will try it soon. water is always staying the same quality
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I apologize if I missed it. Are you topping off with RO? I would not trust a hydrometer to give you an accurate reading and suspect your SG may be considerably higher than you think.
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sorry i dont know all the shortcuts you guys use. whats RO and SG? im pretty sure the hydrometer works exact. right now its on 1.024 from the mix of the ocean water and the drinking water i mixed a few days ago. i didnt changed anything until then. the original ocean water have 1.027. i still have a cube here next to the aquarium.
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sorry i dont know all the shortcuts you guys use. whats RO and SG? im pretty sure the hydrometer works exact. right now its on 1.024 from the mix of the ocean water and the drinking water i mixed a few days ago. i didnt changed anything until then. the original ocean water have 1.027. i still have a cube here next to the aquarium.
RO is reverse osmosis, "pure" water. SG is salinity. I've personally seen hydrometers read as much as .06 off + or -. My question was really... do you use pure water to top off any evaporation losses?
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