Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:40 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
Frustrated

All my corals are slowly but surely crashing. It is like a domino affect. I am so sad. My shrimp, starfish and other inverts seem fine...so do the fish. I don't know what I am doing. Everything was looking so great and then after this last batch of corals I bought everything has just stared falling apart. I still have a fair amount of corals, but I have lost about 3 corals completely and I have atleast 3 others that are dying off quickly. I am just really heartbroken...
__________________

__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 11:42 PM   #2
AA Team Emeritus
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,256
Send a message via ICQ to fishfreek Send a message via AIM to fishfreek Send a message via MSN to fishfreek Send a message via Yahoo to fishfreek
Could be coral placement. If things started occuring after you added the last set of corals then they could be doing their chemical warfare causing the others to react. You can try different placments and see if that helps. In addition some corals are just not compatble. IE to many SPS will cause leathers to not fair so well.

YOu can try running carbon in your filter for a week or so aswell and see if that helps.
__________________

__________________
Remember dont tap the glass, your fish will think you're an idiot -Anonymous mother

Check out our articles area. 30+ Aquatic articles for your enjoyment
Are you in or around the Shenandoah Valley area? If so click here to join our regional forum.
fishfreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 11:42 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
lando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Savage, MN
Posts: 7,889
Sorry to hear about your troubles. What have you lost?
__________________
Some people are like slinkies...they serve no real purpose yet can still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs!:p
Have a great day! Brian
lando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 11:42 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: texas
Posts: 1,510
The dying ones aren't messing up your water are they?
__________________
Good luck! Kat
90 malawia cichlid
55 planted tropical community
http://www.aquarank.com/in.php?id=fishfree
electrikat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 12:33 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
I don't know much about corals, but thats what I was gonna ask. Maybe some chemical warfare due to placement?
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 12:57 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
Well I lost 3 leathers. Two were from the new batch. The first to go was a big giant yellow toadstool. It smelled coming out of the bag and the bag it was in was cloudy so I didn't have high hopes for it. But it seemed ok and all it's polyps came out. Then my husband noticed this brown jelly like stuff and I talked to steve-s about it. After syphoning, we saw that it was rotting really bad. So I go to take it out to try and frag it and it falls on the 3 seperate rocks it was attached too...I had to grab it with both hands to keep it together, but I still ended up gettting chunks floating around. Nothing was left to frag. Then my other new coral, the figner leather started looking like it was shedding, but it got real ugly real quick and when I woke up to frag it it was covered in brown stuff too. I had a small leather frag that I have had for quite some time that was close to it, and it was also covered in the brown stuff and was complete mush. Then my torch suffered a fate of my own ignorance. I had it proped up on a platform type rock, but steve told me it should not be touching anything, where it was rubbing it had brown jelly too (but that was bacterial I believe steve said). Only one branch was affected. I was able to syphon it clean since fragging it proved near impossible. Not my Xenia is coming unattached on certain stalks. My clove polyps have shriveled up. Only a few seem heathly. I took them out, dipped them and cleaned them gently but it does not appear that it had much effect. I still have my flowerpot, zoo's, paly's, mushrooms, ricordia, colt coral, small leather frag (I think it's a baby toadstool) but it has periods that it doesn't look so great, orange sponge, plate coral (but it is getting a white tint 8O ), star polyps...and I think thats it. Here are my parameters. ph 8.1 (this afternoon) however, I have been battling low ph, alk 5 meq/l, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrates 15ppm. Please note that I have been doing daily water changes of between 15-25 gallons of water . I don't know why I have nitrates. I have a DSB, a 30 fuge with rock rubble (It seems to be growing every algea known to man good or bad ) I am thinking of taking the rock rubble out of the bioball chamber to see if that helps...other than that I am clueless.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 03:53 AM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: philadelphia. PA.
Posts: 2,679
What's your water source tap, RO, RO/DI? Also, alk 5 meg/l is pretty high, what's your ca? Have you ever checked your phosphate level? Just some starting points...
__________________
Mike
MT79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 10:08 AM   #8
AA Team Emeritus
 
cmor1701d's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 7,814
Quote:
I am thinking of taking the rock rubble out of the bioball chamber
Is the LR rubble completely under water? If it is, I would leave it in there.

I'm also battling a nitrate (~25ppm) problem of unknown origin with a similar setup and feeding cut back to 1x, every other day.

Sorry, can't help much on the coral issue. With daily 10% water changes I would think that water quality would remain quite high.
cmor1701d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 01:28 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
Yes I am using RO/DI and my phosphate is between 0 and .25. My rock rubble is as you say completely submerged.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2005, 04:24 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: St. Charles Il
Posts: 231
This kind of thing is so frustrating. I had a similar tank crash once, I still never figured out what happened. One coral after another just starting crashing and I was heart broken. It did happen similarly to me, came home with a couple of nice pieces and suddenly things went down hill. It is more than likely something that came in with your new batch of corals. I cringe everytime I put anything in my tank, there are so many unknown variables out there, sorry for your loss. All you can do is keep testing anything you can think of and changing water.
__________________

__________________
Long Live DIY
55 gal reef
45 gal turtle/fish tank
75 gal planted/cichlid tank
PatM is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help, many fish dying. DragonFish71 Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 14 08-01-2009 01:56 PM
Im frustrated. :) tyrel Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 5 10-01-2005 07:14 PM
Frustrated clowninround Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 01-19-2005 12:30 PM
Frustrated mattmku Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 17 01-03-2005 09:36 PM
Very Frustrated... fishman Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 11-18-2004 02:22 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.