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Old 03-27-2007, 12:16 AM   #1
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Growth on lip

I have had this clown from when he was little. I noticed a small bump on his lip but could never get a good clean picture. He has grown a bit and so has this bump and I want to help. Is this a birth defect of some sort of growth that can be treated? He is eating fine and I would like to do something if it can be treated. Thanks in advance... Louie
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:20 PM   #2
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This is likely a physical trauma but could also be genetic and judging from the photo it doesn't appear to be a tumor or any other ailment. Is your clown lethargic? Is the lip disintegrating or discolored? Has it maintained shape with growth?

As long as it's still eating it should be fine and your clown appears generally healthy.

Also this is sometimes observed when a clown changes sexes.

Providing good water parameters and using Kent Garlic Extreme, Selcon, & Zoe to help boost it's immune should help as well.
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Looks like it could be a Thyroid Tumor. It can be treated with iodine for a few weeks. Try using potassium iodide and iodine. You should notice is residing between 2-4 weeks, if not, it could be a malignant tumor (no treatment).
Treatment:
.5g iodine
5 g of potassium iodide
dissolve those into 100ml [100x.003=3 fluid ounces]of water (sorry, my book was written based on metric and a mathly person will have to translate to Gallons)
add 1 ml [1x.03=.03 fluid ounces]
(of the solution) per 50 liters [50x.26=13 Gallons], don't run carbon.This should be added after each PWC.
This book has a metric converter, someone check my math!!
Basically, mix .5g iodine 5 g of potassium iodide in a 3 ounce or larger container, add .43 ounces to your tank, wait a week, do a PWC and re-add the next bach, keep this up for 2-4 weeks.
Here is my math for the amount going into the tank
185 total volume/13G=14.23x.03=.426 of treatment
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He seems to be getting worse, When it came to feeding time he was unable to eat, his mouth is stuck in an open position now and he keeps on sucking on the tips of the hammer coral as if it is soothing. This tank is a 20 gal at work. Roka64 I assume I will need to do this treatment in a Qt tank do to the iodine? I have inverts in my tank. Thanks
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Treatment should be performed in QT IMO since NSW iodine is only 0.01-0.02ppm and overdosing can be harmful to other stock.
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I agree, it should be done in a QT, sorry, I forgot to mention that. Do not use the numbers I stated, since your QT is probably a lot smaller than your main tank.
What sized QT?
I also would try soaking your frozen in garlic extreme, zoe and selcon.
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Any updates? How is the clown?
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He is not doing so well his mouth is still stuck full in the open position and has had no food since. Looks like he is lethargic and weak, I don't think he is going to make it, but I don't want to destroy him either. I feel bab for the poor little fella.
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Have you started the suggested treatment?
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I was able to to catch him im my office tank and he is now home in 10 gal Qt. Treatment has been started here is my math. .5g Iodine= .52ml, 5g potassium iodide= 5.2ml

10 total volume/13G=.7692x.03=.023 oz of treatment = .68ml

I am using a siringe for mesurment so .68ml=.68cc per week after partial water changes for 2 to 4 weeks.

Please does this look right or am I base. Tanks for all your help. Louie
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