Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 04-03-2006, 10:18 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Thomasville, Georgia
Posts: 347
Help! Maroon Clown dying!

Please help. My gsm is lying on a curve on the sandbed. I just tested my water last Wednesday.

Ph-8.2
Alkalinity-5
Calium- 410
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-0

I just put in more of seachems De*Nitrate and matrix carbon last wednesday, too. I have not yet tested for ammonia and will do so after this post.
He was fine yesterday, eating live brine shrimp like a pig. I just now did a 6 gallon water change, that's when I noticed he was acting sick. It's not a knew fish, been in my tank for over a year maybe. Is there anything I can do to help him pull through? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
__________________

__________________
Tank: 55 Gallon
The equipment: Coralife 4x65w (2x10k; 2xActinic), Emperor 400, 2 PH
The Fish: black maroon clown, neon goby, yellow watchman goby, 3 blue-green chromis, royal gramma, and a yellow clown goby.
The Coral: zoos, kenya trees, shrooms, leathers, hammer, and star polyps
The Inverts: LT anemone, pistol shrimp, urchins, etc.
The Janitors: nassarius snails, turbos, hermits, several brittle and serpent stars
The Rock: 68# of Keys-12# Base Rock; from LR.com
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 10:20 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
hackteck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,628
Send a message via AIM to hackteck
did you let the replacement sw age in a bucket or tub for 24 hours to allow the salt to mix?
__________________

__________________
hackteck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 10:28 PM   #3
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,249
How often do you do PWC
__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 10:31 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Thomasville, Georgia
Posts: 347
It's been mixed since around 2 this afternoon. He was already sick before the w/c.

Usually 12 gallons every 2 weeks. I did a w/c last tuesday and decided to do a 10% a week later.

Now that I think about it, he might just being dying of old age. He was an adult when I bought him.
__________________
Tank: 55 Gallon
The equipment: Coralife 4x65w (2x10k; 2xActinic), Emperor 400, 2 PH
The Fish: black maroon clown, neon goby, yellow watchman goby, 3 blue-green chromis, royal gramma, and a yellow clown goby.
The Coral: zoos, kenya trees, shrooms, leathers, hammer, and star polyps
The Inverts: LT anemone, pistol shrimp, urchins, etc.
The Janitors: nassarius snails, turbos, hermits, several brittle and serpent stars
The Rock: 68# of Keys-12# Base Rock; from LR.com
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 10:46 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Enid Oklahoma
Posts: 39
How large is it and how large was it when you bought it? Are any other fish acting strange? Does it have any strange coloration, spots, or stripes? Was anything new added to the tank? Have you noticed anything strange from it in the last days/weeks? More details will help diagnose the problem.

I fear if the lights turn off, something is going to get your gsm. Especially if it's not moving and just lying on the sandbed. Most likely one of the stars, depending on how large they are. If you have a bucket that can be set up fairly quickly, pull out a few pieces of your live rock (with nothing on it) and put it in a bucket with a powerhead (with a good prefilter) and a heater and put him in there.

Hope for the best is about all I can come up with if nothing else seems the matter.
__________________
------------------------------------------------------------
Make your work proud to have your name on it.
------------------------------------------------------------
FW 10G Planted
SW 10G Nano Reef
FW 20G long in the works!
WarEagleNR88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 11:03 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Thomasville, Georgia
Posts: 347
Yeah I think I'll do that. There's no treally much I can do. He's black with incomplete gold bars on his back. He's a little lighter aroung his neck right now.

A firefish, yellow watchman goby and 5 chromises were added Friday and Saturday. The firefish died today( I don't think it was eating good in the first place). 2 of the chromises just disappeared since friday. Another 1 I found dead being eatern by crabs yesterday. I think somethings been eating them or they've been jumping out.)

I haven't noticed anything different about him.
He's on his side now breathing a little heavy.
__________________
Tank: 55 Gallon
The equipment: Coralife 4x65w (2x10k; 2xActinic), Emperor 400, 2 PH
The Fish: black maroon clown, neon goby, yellow watchman goby, 3 blue-green chromis, royal gramma, and a yellow clown goby.
The Coral: zoos, kenya trees, shrooms, leathers, hammer, and star polyps
The Inverts: LT anemone, pistol shrimp, urchins, etc.
The Janitors: nassarius snails, turbos, hermits, several brittle and serpent stars
The Rock: 68# of Keys-12# Base Rock; from LR.com
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 11:16 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Piedmont, NC
Posts: 4,580
Quote:
A firefish, yellow watchman goby and 5 chromises were added Friday and Saturday
That is a lot of fish to add at once to a 55. You sure you do not have a NH3 or NO2 reading? Why are you adding de-nitrator if you have a "0" NO3 reading?
__________________
*The fact that no one understands you doesn't make you an artist.
*If guns kill people...Spoons make Michael Moore fat.
Brenden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 11:22 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Enid Oklahoma
Posts: 39
The additions may very well be the problem. Ammonia or Nitrite and your bacteria has yet to catch up. Are any polyps unusually closed? Do any of the other fish have any visible signs of distress? Discoloration, etc?

If you've another bucket or two with some extra PHs and heaters, start up new batches of saltwater immediately. Match them exact and let them sit for at least 24 hrs. Aerate them too if you can. You'll want to replace water both in your favored GSM's tank and your reef. Then start again.

You might also aerate your GSM's "tank" tonight if he's having problems breathing. I don't think excess O2 can't hurt--it doesn't hurt me when I do it. Oh and if you're running out of air moving devices, moving the water with the powerheads should aerate it.

Keep it up, but don't do too much with your established system. Keep all of your animals there. Your GSM is the immediate priority. Corals and Inverts are typically pretty tough animals--fish are not (unless you have a "bulletproof" adult blue velvet damsel like I had).
__________________
------------------------------------------------------------
Make your work proud to have your name on it.
------------------------------------------------------------
FW 10G Planted
SW 10G Nano Reef
FW 20G long in the works!
WarEagleNR88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 11:31 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Enid Oklahoma
Posts: 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf
2 of the chromises just disappeared since friday. Another 1 I found dead being eaten by crabs yesterday. I think somethings been eating them or they've been jumping out.
And FYI, when fish dies/disappears and you have brittle or serpent stars in the tank, it's an almost 100% guarantee you should know where they went. Some star just got it's belly full. I once watched a hungry ~4" wide body green brittle star eat a LIVE 5" mantis shrimp. Don't put any "food" past clean-up stars.
__________________
------------------------------------------------------------
Make your work proud to have your name on it.
------------------------------------------------------------
FW 10G Planted
SW 10G Nano Reef
FW 20G long in the works!
WarEagleNR88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 11:57 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Thomasville, Georgia
Posts: 347
Thanks for all your help, guys. I checked on the clown again and it had died.

Yeah, sorry guys. I wrote all my parameters down, but I lost the sheet. The earlier parameters were from memory and I'm positive all are accurate except I just realized I got 0.2 for nitrate last time. Retested it just now and got 0 nitrite but .2 nitrate. I actually switched out the old de*nitrate instead of adding more. I've had a hard time battling cyano and the stuff has helped me keep it down. That's the only reason why I have it.

I guess that is a lot of fish at once. There was only the clown and a royal gramma in there. I don't think I had a ammoniua spike, though. Tested that too and it was 0. Corals are doing fine.

War EagleNR88-That is a definate possible, it's probably what's happening. I keep my eyes open and look into the tank at night with a light. If that's what causing their disappearance, I'll trap and get rid of the little buggers.

Thanks for all your fast replies.
__________________

__________________
Tank: 55 Gallon
The equipment: Coralife 4x65w (2x10k; 2xActinic), Emperor 400, 2 PH
The Fish: black maroon clown, neon goby, yellow watchman goby, 3 blue-green chromis, royal gramma, and a yellow clown goby.
The Coral: zoos, kenya trees, shrooms, leathers, hammer, and star polyps
The Inverts: LT anemone, pistol shrimp, urchins, etc.
The Janitors: nassarius snails, turbos, hermits, several brittle and serpent stars
The Rock: 68# of Keys-12# Base Rock; from LR.com
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
clown, dyi, dying, maroon clown

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Maroon Clown Help! 0o.Kelsey.o0 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 7 06-05-2009 05:41 PM
Really want a Maroon Clown StaceyL Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 20 08-24-2007 08:13 AM
Help with maroon clown chefrt Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 4 06-13-2005 04:19 PM
Maroon Clown jeff8183 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 11 04-12-2005 03:46 PM
Maroon clown Saltwater Reef Aquaria 3 05-17-2004 11:15 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.