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Old 04-29-2010, 02:29 PM   #11
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mrgo2d: LFS perfectly aware that it was marine tank - they sold me the fish in the first place!
thincat: They also sold me the R/o water with explicit instructions - no salt to be added! this was after testing the water for salinity, nitrates etc.
Anyway -water under the bridge now. I need to look forward and try to get my poor fish healthy again. Luckily, there are no other fish in the tank- only critters and anemone (which surprisingly is thriving!) Oh, and the feather duster.

melosu58 - thanks for the link - I will do some research tonight.
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mrgo2d: LFS perfectly aware that it was marine tank - they sold me the fish in the first place!
thincat: They also sold me the R/o water with explicit instructions - no salt to be added! this was after testing the water for salinity, nitrates etc.
Anyway -water under the bridge now. I need to look forward and try to get my poor fish healthy again. Luckily, there are no other fish in the tank- only critters and anemone (which surprisingly is thriving!) Oh, and the feather duster.

melosu58 - thanks for the link - I will do some research tonight.
Wow, I am surprised then at the stupidity of the LFS if they truly instructed you to replace 25% of your water with freshwater like that! JEEZE! People like them are the reason others think reef tanks are so hard to run. Good thing for this site!

You can go to walmart and get a 10g tank for $10 to use as a QT tank. Add a little heater (unless its warm enough at night) and a small HOB filter and away you go with the treatment. Make sure to acclimate the fish to the QT tank water, and do PWC on the QT so as to keep the ammonia at zero. (Youll want to monitor it closely since the fish is about to really get upset).

Good luck!
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:58 PM   #13
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"explicit instructions - no salt to be added!" WOW!!! that was bad instructions,,,,
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OK... I'm not agreeing with the advice the LFS gave, but I don't think their advice was really that stupid as folks here suggest.

Many books and LFS work under the impression that a lower salinity (around 1.020-ish) makes life easier on a fish. That's why you often see recommendations for lower salinity in FO or FOWLR tanks. It gets down to the amount of energy the fish has to expend on balancing the osmotic pressures and pH levels between its body and the surrounding water. Lower salinities are thought to give the fish more energy to fight off diseases, etc since they don't have to expend that energy to just plain stay alive. I don't know if this is true or not, but I've read it enough times to assume there is some truth behind it somewhere.

There's also the fact (?) that fish can deal with a quick lowering of salinity better than a quick raising of it. The hyposalinity instructions I have followed in the past basically take the 1.025 water down to 1.009 in about 2 days - but then take about 10 days to bring it back up. Things seemed to be just fine - the fish endured it, and it's still alive to this day.

So the advice the LFS gave was essentially to lower the SG from 1.025 to something around 1.020, probably to help the fish fight the ich. If there were no inverts in the tank (maybe they didn't know about the duster), and it was just fish only, this advice isn't as bizarre as it seems. Not necessarily what I would've recommended, but it's not like the LFS was just making stuff up. LFS are people too!
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Kurt there is also an Anemone in that tank too!
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Kurt there is also an Anemone in that tank too!
OK.

Doesn't really change my point though...
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:07 AM   #17
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How old did you say your tank was?
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Thank you so much for your comments, everyone. Sad to report that fish went bellyup this morning - lesson well learned here. Feeling very foolish and naive here...
thincat: Tank is about a month old. This was my first attempt at marine fish
Never mind - onwards and upwards we go...
Did a second water change this morning, salinity now at 1.023 (1.021 yesterday). Will do one more tomorrow to notch it up again.
Surprisingly, I have a shrimp in there that is doing really well (touch wood), and the anemone are thriving. However, I ordered anemone off ebay, and they don't look anything like the anemone in the lfs. Here's a pic of the anemone:
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OMG! Update: The dead fish was swallowed whole by the anemone! Only the tail sticking out is evidence that the fish existed! Lol.
I'd asked my hubby to take the fish out of the tank as I had to rush to work, and when he went to do so, all he saw was the tail sticking out of the Anemone's mouth! Wish he'd taken pictures!
Sorry - that's a bit gross, but I just had to share
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I can't seem to see what type of lighting you have on your tank and how much.
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