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Old 01-05-2005, 02:39 PM   #1
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Help with freshwater dip please

Reference other thread, pages 5 + 6:

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My Clownfish likely has Brooklynella (Thanks QS!), I called every LFS in my range and none have Formalin in stock. The LFS I usually go to reccomended a freshwater dip and said they have have really good luck with Clowns in the area that had similar parasites. I am not the first person to get a Clown like this from the local PetCo.

Anyway, I was told to put the fish in a small container with water from my freshwater tank for 5 minutes (depending on how the Clown reacts), then dunk the fish in two containers of water from my saltwater tank to make sure no parasites that fell off make it back into the salwater tank. I have a bunch of clean gallon jugs I am going to use for this.

My big question is, can I add anything else to the freshwater dip to help with this? I can get copper meds and other stuff locally without a problem, just not Formalin for some reason
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I can send some formalin if you need. I have a whole bottle from a previous treatment, let me know. The FW dip may help, but probably won't cure.
As for the dip, you need to PH and temp adjust it to match the tank water that he is in. Set up the water, heat it and buffer it up until you have a match. If you don't do this, he may go into shock.
PM me if interested, I can get you some formalin.
Malachite Green has also been reported somewhat to work, can you get that?
Either way, get that qt tank set up, you will need it.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:08 PM   #3
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Yep, I can get Malachite Green. "Quick Cure" is just Malachite Green and they push that stuff like drugs all over the place. I still might take you up on the offer for some Formalin though, then I could put some in the medicine cabinet. I will see how this goes. I want to dip this fish ASAP before it gets worse.

I have some Kent ProBuffer to help raise the PH in the freshwater dip water. Is there anything that stabilizes PH faster? I use the Kent in my saltwater mixing bin for a day or so before even testing it. Baking soda maybe?

I will check on the status of my QT tank when I get home. It is in my basement and got moved a few times, I gotta find which box the tank is in. If that goes well, I can start mixing up some salt in the tank tonight.
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Baking soda will work, but the buffer should work just as fast IMO, especially is a small bucket. Just add a little at a time and test. It's a plus if you have a PH monitor and run an airstone to mix it up faster.
I will bring the formalin to work tomorrow in case you need it. I have daily UPS pickups and could get it right out.
Dipping is stressful, don't be alarmed if he just lays there. If he starts trying to jump out or is spitting water at the surface, thats when you abort.
Try to go 5-7 minutes if he can handle it and put him in the qt tank. Thats what I would do under the circumstances. Then you can decide what med you want to use.
I posted a link to this thread in the staff forum to see if anyone has any other idea.
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Well, the QT tank will not be ready without some salt mix time so I am going to have to dump the fish back in the tank after the dip tonight. I only keep about 3 or 4 gallons of mixed salt in my bin. After this, I will probably increase that to 10g or so. I also question my current abilities to keep the QT tank stable enough to help the fish instead of making it worse. The only good thing about this situation is that I only have two fish to lose if I really mess up

If the dip tonight fails, the second attempt will be with Formalin and the fish will go into QT. Then I can treat the fish directly in the QT as needed. Will keep you updated...
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I also question my current abilities to keep the QT tank stable enough to help the fish instead of making it worse.
Don't worry about that, with daily water changes to keep ammonia down it will stabllize itself. Med will mess up the biological filter anyway.
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That is good to know. I really like this Clownfish, it has some very cute tendencies. I am very optimistic that I can do the one dip and the fish can take care of itself after that. Probably a pipedream, but I gotta be positive
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Good luck, will keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Old 01-05-2005, 05:18 PM   #9
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Yep, I can get Malachite Green. "Quick Cure" is just Malachite Green and they push that stuff like drugs all over the place. I still might take you up on the offer for some Formalin though, then I could put some in the medicine cabinet.
Quick cure is 99% formaldehyde, just dilute the solution and do the dip as suggested above. Formalin is just a 37% solution of formaldehyde. Be very sure of temp and pH prior. Temp is very very important and use an airstone if possible.

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...oklynella.html

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Is Malachite Green just Formaldehyde then?

UPDATE: Ok, I see that is it both Formaldehyde and Malachite Green.

Any comments on if I should do a 30 minute saltwater dip compared to a 7 minute freshwater dip?
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