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Old 06-28-2015, 03:06 PM   #11
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Well I hope you are correct.
It has not been 4 days since you aquaired tang?
The cleaner shrimp can't cure ich ,not my opinion,but documented many places.
I will provide links if you like.
I had an emperor angel,powder blue tang and fox face when I added my chevron and it all blew up!
There are only three ways to kill ich.
All the fish I mentioned were lost over a period of a month.
Watch your tang closely.
And of course good luck.
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:28 PM   #12
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Well I hope you are correct.
It has not been 4 days since you aquaired tang?
The cleaner shrimp can't cure ich ,not my opinion,but documented many places.
I will provide links if you like.
I had an emperor angel,powder blue tang and fox face when I added my chevron and it all blew up!
There are only three ways to kill ich.
All the fish I mentioned were lost over a period of a month.
Watch your tang closely.
And of course good luck.
I know, that's why I said I can't say for sure for a few weeks, but so far all signs indicate it will go well.
Cleaners can't "cure" ich or any parasitic infestation, BUT what they do accomplish, especially with ich, is getting the cysts before they detach from the fish and fall into the substrate where they incubate and then release hundreds more larvae.
So the more cysts the shrimp eat, the lower the population will be at the next cycle.
So that coupled with more water changes vacuuming the substrate, good diet, UV sterilizer and low stress environment, ich usually can be managed no problem.
No one of those elements in itself will "cure" ich, but when combined the chances of it getting a stronghold in the system are very slim.
I'm sure adding the chiller to the system has also helped. no more 10 degree swings over the course of 24 hours, now at most it fluctuates 1.5 degrees.

Sad to say that in most situations where ich takes out numerous fish in a system, chances are very high that there were already underlying issues that compromised the fish's immune system.

That really only applies to ich though, oodinium, brookynella, flukes, etc. are another story altogether and completely healthy fish can succumb to those parasites much more readily and quickly and often by the time symptoms are obvious, it's too late, as Mr. X's recent tragedy demonstrated.

so I guess we can at least be thankful that ich is relatively slow by comparison.
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Old 06-28-2015, 06:09 PM   #13
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Well, after my sitting with the camera against the tank for five minutes, his urge to nibble nori overcame his camera shyness...LOL


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Old 06-28-2015, 06:13 PM   #14
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And photobombed by the PJ. Always the creeper in the saltwater community.
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Old 06-28-2015, 06:17 PM   #15
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Very NICE!
I really wanted a brown when I got the blue , but I'm married(hehe) .
One of my favorites.
Although not "uncommon",it is not as commonly chose as powder blue.
Much more striking IMO!
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Agreed. Dream of a tank with a purple, powder brown, and my tomini.
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Thanks, they have always been one of my favorites, and this guy has that deep chocolate brown body color when he is happy.
I like the blues, almost got one, but they always look sickly and are not as hardy as the browns in my experience.




and yeah, that PJ cardinal lurking back there looks weird with those big red eyes watching everything...
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Personal, I found UV to be very helping in controlling algae ans Ich. It won't cure them but overtime it will disappeared.

However, don't buy those grade 1 or lower UV, you will need at least grade 2 or higher light bulbs and run it 24/7 during inital period.

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Well it's been long enough for the little buggers to get moving with the second generation....and they are.


From the looks of my tangs skin, he will be erupting with a bunch of cysts in the next 24 hours, so the battle goes on.
He is still feisty and eating like an absolute pig, but I can also tell he is beginning to be distressed a bit, going and hanging out in the return stream with his mouth open so the water passes over his gills with minimal effort, and just acting a little "agitated".
He has been making regular stops by the cleaner shrimp and allowing them to do their thing every few laps around the tank, but I'm gonna have to step up my game a bit.


Has anyone out there had any real success with any "reef safe" treatments?
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I can't claim success but have had no problems with using herbtana in reef tanks.
https://www.microbelift.com/products...herbtana-reef/
Several links to reef central threads if you search herbtanna that may have better results.
Qt is out of the question?
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