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Old 09-24-2011, 09:35 AM   #1
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Ich

So I believe I have ich. I can't treat in my display tank because I have coral. If I set up a 10g QT, do I have to cycle it? My DT that has ich is a 34g. Thank you!
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In saltwater it is not ich, it is white spot.

What fish has white spot?

There are effectively no good treatments of white spot in reef tanks. The safest thing I have seen is to use freshly pressed garlic to soak the food in. The allicin in garlic can kill parasites. I have heard some examples of New Life Spectrum Thera+A treating marine white spot because that formula has so much garlic in it.

IME quarantine tanks don't work 90% of the time. Stress causes illness and QTs are a great way to cause stress. The smaller volume causes lower water quality. The lack of stability since it is not a long term established tank, sparse decorations, etc. all cause extra stress on the fish. IME it is better to leave them in the DT, do some extra water changes to keep water quality up, and feed well so they are fat and happy (don't overfeed and pollute the tank though).

What is the nitrate concentration?
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Here is a quick article on ich and how to treat it and how it works.

Marine Ich or White Spot Disease
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Ich showed up for me so I began a 20 gal hospital/QT tank. Moved all fish in, got my cycle over and started cupramine. That was a month ago, just one more and all fishies can move back home. For now on everything wet goes to QT first.
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An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure: A Quarantine Tank for Everything by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
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In saltwater it is not ich, it is white spot.

What fish has white spot?

There are effectively no good treatments of white spot in reef tanks. The safest thing I have seen is to use freshly pressed garlic to soak the food in. The allicin in garlic can kill parasites. I have heard some examples of New Life Spectrum Thera+A treating marine white spot because that formula has so much garlic in it.

IME quarantine tanks don't work 90% of the time. Stress causes illness and QTs are a great way to cause stress. The smaller volume causes lower water quality. The lack of stability since it is not a long term established tank, sparse decorations, etc. all cause extra stress on the fish. IME it is better to leave them in the DT, do some extra water changes to keep water quality up, and feed well so they are fat and happy (don't overfeed and pollute the tank though).

What is the nitrate concentration?
I agree with everything said here. I've only experienced marine ich a few times but it has always quickly gone away, never to come back following the steps above.
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The best way to deal with ich is to not deal with it at all...Do you really want to go pressing garlic cloves and soaking food every time your fish gets a spec on it(which it will continue to do ) and stress over the fact your tank may be too stressed to add a new fish...Treat your fish in QT,,let the ich in your DT starve and QT from now on
If you know how to QT properly you will have success ....QT's work..
Nice read BTW Carey,i haven't read that one
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:36 PM   #8
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So I am confused now LOL. Some people say to soak the food in garlic, and feed foods with garlic, but some other people say the best way is to use a QT. I am kinda leaning towards the QT, because I want the ich to die off in the DT.

If I go with the QT method:
How do I go about cycling this tank?
What equipment/meds should I use?


Thank you everyone for all of your help! I really do appreciate it!
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Do all of your fish have ich or just 1 or 2?
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I think it is all. The only one I am not sure of if he has it is one of my Clowns.
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