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Old 04-26-2006, 11:07 AM   #11
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FWIW, coppersafe is a chealated copper solution and a regular copper test kit will not measure it, you need a copper test kit for a chealated copper solution.

I agree with all the above posts...remove the copper and treat with hypo.
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Yes I'm aware that ich returns 10x worse that is why I have Coppersafe in there for the moment. To kill it in the free swimming stage. The test kit I used is for chelated copper also. It's just not made to go as high as 15ppm so you have to dilute the solution which does confuse me... As stated earlier I'm not treating with hypo and copper. As soon as the refractometer arrives then I will add carbon and do a PWC while lowering the SG to 1.009. Is .014 really considered hypo? I'm new to this so maybe it is. I bought my meter on ebay for like $40. Hopefully it is of good quality. At the moment the fish are still doing well...

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Old 04-26-2006, 06:24 PM   #14
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No, It is not low enough to do any good.
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:27 PM   #15
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Is .014 really considered hypo?
No! If using a refractometer, target 14 ppt. It's the measure on the right side of the guage. You'll understand once you get it. SG is temp dependant so it cannot be dierctly correlated to a salinity reference without mathematically calculating the temp variance. Ignore SG references and just be concerned with salinity measured in ppt. You'll do just fine if so.

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Well I finally got the refractometer on Friday. During the past three days I finally got the salinity down to 14 ppt. It's amazing how much water I had to change. It seems my old SG meter was off by 3-4 points. So in reality my water was still at .020 before I did the major water change just recently. My water parameters are right where they should be with the PH at 8.1. Which I'll probably bump up to 8.3 in the next few days. How long can the fish sustain such a low salinity? Just curious....
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Be sure you raise salinity slowly when hypo is done. 6-8 weeks I think is about the max time at 14ppt. After that it has the potential to cause organ damage. 4 weeks after the last signs of ich is long enough for hypo. You can wait 5 weeks just to make sure. Once again make sure you increase salinity slowly. Fish can not handle the increase like they can a decrease.
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i agree not to do both treatments but also a hater of hypo everytime ive done it the hypo cures the ich only to leave worse problems behind wich usally kill your fish with a infection or something else,it has worked for me but only half the fish ive done hypo on are still alive while every fish ive ever coppered is still alive so im shure ill be shunned for not agreeing with hypo but ill never do it again ever.
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Some people have bad experiences with almost every remedy out there. It does not mean the treatment is faulty.


As far as how long they can remain at that level, actually several months without concern.
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...tyeffects.html

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the hypo worked fine every time just the die off from the tank seems to give bigger problems than the ich ever did
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